From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <4bone@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C3B53B29D; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 08:05:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id 12EC4vnB099359; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 05:04:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from 4bone@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from 4bone@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id 12EC4vXo099358; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 05:04:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from 4bone) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" <4bone@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Message-Id: <202103141204.12EC4vXo099358@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: To: Dave Taht Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2021 05:04:57 -0700 (PDT) CC: ECN-Sane , bloat X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] BeyondBeyond Jain?s Fairness Index: Setting the Bar ForThe Deployment of Congestion Control Algorithms X-BeenThere: ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2021 12:05:01 -0000 > Bounding harm. > > https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rware/assets/pdf/ware-hotnets19.pdf I believe this was presented to IETF iccrg at the last meeting, and is what Pete is using to calculate the "harm" value used in the current L4S/SCE test data. > dave@taht.net CTO, TekLibre, LLC Tel: 1-831-435-0729 -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org