Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
To: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>,
	"David P. Reed" <dpreed@deepplum.com>
Cc: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>,
	"ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net" <ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	tsvwg IETF list <tsvwg@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] [tsvwg] per-flow scheduling
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 08:33:13 +1200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2382048d-25de-df7e-f787-8ab0d606d3dc@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9A6E126A-43A3-4BD8-A3AC-507FF9095470@gmx.de>

On 27-Jun-19 19:49, Sebastian Moeller wrote:
...
> a considerable fraction of home-users seem obsessed in maxing out their access links and compare achievable rates; whether such behaviour shoud be encouraged is a different question.

I think this is encouraged by, or is even a direct result of, so called "speed tests" for use by consumers (such as https://www.speedtest.net/), and the way connectivity "speed" has been used as a marketing tool. At least where I live, "speed" is the main marketing tool for switching users to fibre instead of copper. No doubt it will be used as the main marketing tool for 5G too.

It's almost as if those marketing people don't understand queueing theory.

    Brian



  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-27 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-19 14:12 [Ecn-sane] " Bob Briscoe
2019-06-19 14:20 ` [Ecn-sane] [tsvwg] " Kyle Rose
2019-06-21  6:59 ` [Ecn-sane] " Sebastian Moeller
2019-06-21  9:33   ` Luca Muscariello
2019-06-21 20:37     ` [Ecn-sane] [tsvwg] " Brian E Carpenter
2019-06-22 19:50       ` David P. Reed
2019-06-22 20:47         ` Jonathan Morton
2019-06-22 22:03           ` Luca Muscariello
2019-06-22 22:09           ` David P. Reed
2019-06-22 23:07             ` Jonathan Morton
2019-06-24 18:57               ` David P. Reed
2019-06-24 19:31                 ` Jonathan Morton
2019-06-24 19:50                   ` David P. Reed
2019-06-24 20:14                     ` Jonathan Morton
2019-06-25 21:05                       ` David P. Reed
2019-06-24 21:25                   ` Luca Muscariello
2019-06-26 12:48             ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-06-26 16:31               ` David P. Reed
2019-06-26 16:53                 ` David P. Reed
2019-06-27  7:54                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-06-27  7:49                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-06-27 20:33                   ` Brian E Carpenter [this message]
2019-06-27 21:31                     ` David P. Reed
2019-06-28  7:49                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-06-27  7:53                 ` Bless, Roland (TM)
2019-06-22 21:10         ` Brian E Carpenter
2019-06-22 22:25           ` David P. Reed
2019-06-22 22:30             ` Luca Muscariello
2019-07-17 21:33 ` [Ecn-sane] " Sebastian Moeller
2019-07-17 22:18   ` David P. Reed
2019-07-17 22:34     ` David P. Reed
2019-07-17 23:23       ` Dave Taht
2019-07-18  0:20         ` Dave Taht
2019-07-18  5:30           ` Jonathan Morton
2019-07-18 15:02         ` David P. Reed
2019-07-18 16:06           ` Dave Taht
2019-07-18  4:31     ` Jonathan Morton
2019-07-18 15:52       ` David P. Reed
2019-07-18 18:12         ` [Ecn-sane] [tsvwg] " Dave Taht
2019-07-18  5:24     ` [Ecn-sane] " Jonathan Morton
2019-07-22 13:44       ` Bob Briscoe
2019-07-23  5:00         ` Jonathan Morton
2019-07-23 11:35           ` [Ecn-sane] CNQ cheap-nasty-queuing (was per-flow queuing) Luca Muscariello
2019-07-23 20:14           ` [Ecn-sane] per-flow scheduling Bob Briscoe
2019-07-23 22:24             ` Jonathan Morton
2019-07-23 15:12         ` [Ecn-sane] [tsvwg] " Kyle Rose
2019-07-25 19:25           ` Holland, Jake
2019-07-27 15:35             ` Kyle Rose
2019-07-27 19:42               ` Jonathan Morton

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