Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet
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From: Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net>
To: "Holland, Jake" <jholland@akamai.com>
Cc: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
	ECN-Sane <ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] osx not doing ecn for me
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 00:30:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3644FEFF-F181-47A1-AD50-562662EEDCBA@heistp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <80F6ABAB-EDDA-4B06-9014-D31E448FD027@akamai.com>

Mine negotiates it, but I’m stuck on 10.13.

This likely isn’t the problem, but I’ve fallen for the trap before that “netstat -sp tcp” needs to be run as root or all counters show 0...

> On Jan 9, 2020, at 10:41 PM, Holland, Jake <jholland@akamai.com> wrote:
> 
> Are you sure it's not just temporarily held down?
> 
> IIRC Padma said they shut it off for something like an hour or 3
> whenever they notice an "anomaly", according to a bunch of heuristics
> that can occasionally hit false positives:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/98/materials/slides-98-maprg-tcp-ecn-experience-with-enabling-ecn-on-the-internet-padma-bhooma-00.pdf
> 
> Anyway, my mac still asks for ECN, fwiw.  My sysctls say it like this,
> and tweaking them I would imagine would change it around in ways I'd
> want to check if I had done anything to them:
> 
> net.inet.tcp.ecn_timeout: 60
> net.inet.tcp.ecn_setup_percentage: 100
> net.inet.tcp.ecn_initiate_out: 2
> net.inet.tcp.ecn_negotiate_in: 2 
> 
> HTH.
> 
> -Jake
> 
> On 2020-01-09, 13:18, "Dave Taht" <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> sometime in the last three months my osx box stopped attempting ecn negotiation.
> 
> It would to verify if its working or not on other osx and ios boxes.
> 
> -- 
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> 
> Dave Täht
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-09 23:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-09 21:18 Dave Taht
2020-01-09 21:41 ` Holland, Jake
2020-01-09 23:30   ` Pete Heist [this message]
2020-01-09 23:45     ` Dave Taht
2020-01-10  8:48       ` Michael Welzl
2020-01-10  9:41         ` Pete Heist
2020-03-21  4:23           ` Dave Taht
2020-03-21 18:41             ` Holland, Jake

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