Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet
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From: "Holland, Jake" <jholland@akamai.com>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>,
	Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: "ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net" <ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] can we setup a "how to get this into existing networks" get-together in Prague coming week?
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 06:00:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46D9B2E8-0F19-48FF-81B8-D9F4F313C8E9@akamai.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1903211121530.3161@uplift.swm.pp.se>

On 2019-03-21, 11:32, "Mikael Abrahamsson" <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote:
    I'll be at the IETF meeting monday-friday coming week, can we set up a 
    meeting with some interested parties and actually have a "how do we get 
    this into networks" kind of meeting. It would not be "my mechanism is 
    better than yours" meeting, I'm not interested in that in this context.
    
    I'm interested in "what can we do to improve the situation in the next 1-2 
    years including installed base".

This seems like a useful idea to me.

I guess based on Apple's observations[1], we know there's at least
one network in France and at least one in the Argentina that has
rolled this out at some scale.

Does anyone know which networks these are and maybe have contacts
there?  Maybe someone could find out what they did and write up a
case study?

I agree even getting some regular basic CE-marking stuff deployed
would probably be really cool if it can be done sanely.

-Jake

[1] page 12:
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/98/slides/slides-98-maprg-tcp-ecn-experience-with-enabling-ecn-on-the-internet-padma-bhooma-00.pdf


  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-23  6:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-21 10:31 Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-03-23  6:00 ` Holland, Jake [this message]
2019-03-23 19:01   ` Jonathan Morton
2019-03-23 19:12     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-03-26 11:06       ` Holland, Jake
2019-03-26 13:20         ` Mikael Abrahamsson

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