From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk1-x72c.google.com (mail-qk1-x72c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::72c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1950A3B29E for ; Fri, 10 May 2019 10:00:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qk1-x72c.google.com with SMTP id j1so3668402qkk.12 for ; Fri, 10 May 2019 07:00:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fugue-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=O3/sNKfNSW6hgFCXWVOtwtDhPr1/Z3eoJOg41+o7so0=; b=s333RBG6oEkDoP7inZGCJqFqDprnlb+YliB5ZEujqSkZ6R9z4GxfLyUQAkWYAULP5Z LsheJ2EzFRUDRUHRbcpH5+tfIPvO/Xbdb8y3nXGNLWhd2T8Yl3XGJXgGgsmMviyoT6mM I/qJM+8D8ZyMA9aCTsQLz3b7pytA+9Yx/QWH4cB2tXMP1vexgihcd7qxrtXgaRb0maV0 Zs3LyrHP2Hs/a84MZLRxPdvjKNLRk0B+U92+21avgSwCGExsKrYkPpjtZ+jTo3RhZF2N 6aJjWa1Xs1h0hbH3zkUnYsLQxnmZLputb2HmB4ttqXA//QUZYesyRnIROIJHTxr5zn3p iwGA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=O3/sNKfNSW6hgFCXWVOtwtDhPr1/Z3eoJOg41+o7so0=; b=seAHuVR1HbaZnswkQEPe3Di0KOEYm51WzRcJzh/oyI4eBm4nk/hiEldr8chrM/Et05 nr6J6KuvL138WejcQA0+nZGpONEZ3+Qs/HWA0P2Ij2v4kEXRnYmjaI4UM3PbihAm0L6N Suo7NNBdN+CJ4QmdkGtTkWMahGUNwSkA5/lUtsHipu23Azilxp4znTjnQEu4+MEKePGv /unOPyvKal8GlAHtGjLlbAB5aBt3F0Yub/eAcn5F8WClUa23H1ZOKIjRlGWmL1l7ZQjx 5dMis9OjaCW4IZO0lZwhhp/QRhRnYti7OHdQtM4TpcNqqRhBqtd8cmgJbndEnlVSWOrR FZJg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXMFeyD40R9yK28jFrRhREmMY8j2KZBGChtMK29qf0Bc99dCaQ2 VATMpelU9jtgF0B8017f1onc9w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwMesGxdjimZiQUZRPFJV93dYUFAXGr7mDGV9wzTzrlvSaQCppcSFUvN/pXaV1LTzR6l5ZOtw== X-Received: by 2002:a37:b846:: with SMTP id i67mr8863499qkf.179.1557496803156; Fri, 10 May 2019 07:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.34] (c-73-186-137-119.hsd1.nh.comcast.net. [73.186.137.119]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j4sm3285339qti.49.2019.05.10.07.00.01 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 10 May 2019 07:00:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Lemon Message-Id: <4C8193B9-586C-4ED9-B01E-6BA37071600A@fugue.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_533A965A-B804-46CC-A8A7-FCDF65F04DB1" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.2\)) Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 10:00:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: Cc: Dave Taht , Magnus Westerlund , tsvwg IETF list , ECN-Sane , The IESG , IETF Discussion Mailing List To: Joe Touch References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.2) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 11 May 2019 08:02:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] travel funds for ietf for the next SCE talk? X-BeenThere: ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 14:00:04 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_533A965A-B804-46CC-A8A7-FCDF65F04DB1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On May 10, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Joe Touch wrote: > The only people who get a fully free ride that I know of are the IEEE = Comsoc Board.=20 Hm. I=E2=80=99ve never paid to attend IETF. Granted, this is not = because IETF comped me, but because I was fortunate enough to have an = employer who could afford to send me at no cost to me. This model unfortunately doesn=E2=80=99t work for open source developers = who are not on the payroll of a company with deep pockets. --Apple-Mail=_533A965A-B804-46CC-A8A7-FCDF65F04DB1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 On = May 10, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> wrote:
The only  people who get a fully free ride that I know = of are the IEEE Comsoc Board. 

Hm.  I=E2=80=99ve never paid to attend IETF. =  Granted, this is not because IETF comped me, but because I was = fortunate enough to have an employer who could afford to send me at no = cost to me.

This= model unfortunately doesn=E2=80=99t work for open source developers who = are not on the payroll of a company with deep pockets.

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