Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet
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From: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
To: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
Cc: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>,
	Jonathan Foulkes <jfoulkes@evenroute.com>,
	"ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net" <ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	Dave Taht <dave@taht.net>, "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] is FQ actually widely deployed?
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 02:06:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E959AE1-9616-4F30-B93B-76BE5BA3D278@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BAC8C466-E215-46AE-9D30-591A82055633@gmx.de>

> On 23 Jul, 2019, at 1:57 am, Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> This is my min gripe with accelerators and off-load features, typically they side-step the linux kernel network stack and offer far less features than that stack (this is how they speed up things).

May I introduce you to https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-morton-tsvwg-cheap-nasty-queueing-00 ?  I'm also in the process of expanding the LFQ draft.  I think they show that HW acceleration *shouldn't* mean just dumb FIFOs.

> IMHO these are crutches and at least up to 1Gbps links reasonable priced x86/x64 hardware can do routing with all bells and whistles

I'd actually be rather interested to see what a Raspberry Pi 4 with a GigE USB3 dongle tacked on can cope with, now that it has native GigE through a direct PHY connection instead of via a USB2 bottleneck.  That would be in the rough price range of a basic wifi router, and I've already got a Pi 2B running as an SCE endpoint.

Any idea which shops I should look in while I'm in Montreal?

 - Jonathan Morton

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-23  6:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-22 14:14 Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-07-22 15:20 ` Jonathan Morton
2019-07-22 17:05   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-07-22 18:02     ` Pete Heist
2019-07-23  5:32     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-07-23  5:57       ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-07-23  6:06         ` Jonathan Morton [this message]
2019-07-22 22:14   ` Jonathan Foulkes
2019-07-22 22:24     ` Jonathan Morton
2019-07-22 17:09 ` Dave Taht
2019-07-23  5:34   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-07-23  6:13     ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-07-23  6:21       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-07-23 10:57         ` Dave Taht

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