From: Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net>
To: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
Cc: ECN-Sane <ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] re-marking ECT(1) to ECT(0) (was: mosh ecn bits washed out)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 10:18:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <73737060a1d857675ad5f44a17ddb30b342da5ba.camel@heistp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42F85394-FF4B-48BF-89B1-082D97CFA76C@gmx.de>
...
On Fri, 2021-03-19 at 09:56 +0100, Sebastian Moeller wrote:
> Hi Pete,
>
> > On Mar 19, 2021, at 09:25, Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net> wrote:
> >
> > Meaning, the negotiation succeeds and ECT(0) is set going up, but
> > zeroed on packets by the time they come down?
> >
> > The negotiation can also be blocked with iptables --ecn-tcp-remove,
> > which just zeroes out ECE and CWR, preventing negotiation
> > (https://git.netfilter.org/iptables/tree/extensions/libipt_ECN.c),
> > but
> > I doubt that's very commonly done.
>
> Oh, that looks interesting, probably not too hard to extend
> this to also allow to selectively only re-map ECT(1) and or ECT(0). I
> wonder what TCP Prague would do if its ECT(1) flows are switched to
> ECT(0) in transit?
I suspect it would then dominate all traffic in the C queue, or any
other RFC3168 signalling queue
(https://github.com/heistp/l4s-tests/#unsafety-in-shared-rfc3168-queues
). That might be an easy way to game the dual queue for higher
throughput.
Pete
> Best Regards
> Sebastian
>
> >
> > On Thu, 2021-03-18 at 13:00 -0700, Dave Taht wrote:
> > > mosh, which has long had excellent support for ecn, appears to be
> > > getting the
> > > ecn bit washed out along my path from california to england.
> > >
> > > ecn survives up that way, but not down.
> > >
> > > Just a single data point thus far.
> > >
> >
> >
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-03-19 9:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-18 20:00 [Ecn-sane] mosh ecn bits washed out Dave Taht
2021-03-19 8:25 ` Pete Heist
2021-03-19 8:56 ` Sebastian Moeller
2021-03-19 9:18 ` Pete Heist [this message]
2021-03-19 14:24 ` [Ecn-sane] re-marking ECT(1) to ECT(0) (was: mosh ecn bits washed out) Sebastian Moeller
2021-03-19 14:08 ` [Ecn-sane] mosh ecn bits washed out Dave Taht
2021-03-19 14:59 ` Pete Heist
2021-03-19 15:26 ` Dave Taht
2021-03-20 5:24 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
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