From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x32a.google.com (mail-wm1-x32a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D343A3BA8E for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 06:11:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wm1-x32a.google.com with SMTP id t124so8199110wma.4 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 03:11:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heistp.net; s=google; h=from:mime-version:subject:message-id:date:to; bh=NcX4kAObgrdxWNa0NlNc7Kqbw/FlJVkmM5DteHN0ddQ=; b=co0r9vCEPr+b9kYD9o/nfMz5lhzws+dr8Gi9Hpmxxv2ngLkXWe1w98H/6nBj9+D9YQ j/JVpGLhwtNblfmv/uQwjDJhHZlhXkTcsxZuQ0FXmURKE0zW9o2eMfSq8cAvar9dJ5el b6FJjQL7qfRQG+2syKZvyryvTgFsBovlsBoKGPQ2MXl4pzebn6gYwHjkJcDOyxjcsPey OFOAjdPLyr7AtgZ2wj/BGeplJih3WGuiG1tgfDrXOJ/GDjDd30f7o55Giit7w62yl980 aXCRUX0aG3wVDl+bvuBopDSYDSPSMnwUQdvuz8s19EQ67drm50MrSRaUxKxhlgf4padN P8Zw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:subject:message-id:date:to; bh=NcX4kAObgrdxWNa0NlNc7Kqbw/FlJVkmM5DteHN0ddQ=; b=gMzatgwZARrZXlM8UHEneiGVrFsUm5rC7AijQQk5Efg3jt9Jugd5l+9Y/K5EuEindq GAIpLGWHc5HfY6IFjx8t4am1zdeSlvcF1SWx/N46ai5XvDrPZ6DqerKHHhEHnhDAmsIV CntAyYqqd4hqBgrYWiUml9+NZALbZZhrhatppil/N5oTITaKz413ZM5uClOD9XtW43Pd BYYtriN12sr+GycRMJDUT5zMN1GuuZ2oLHadSxGBidZb936hBEq3XxrZc9ttW1kPg8wf o114sX5ispc9CRRKyYHwziscDRBgGmqGDqOVju0O8+x0/9meCfmlkvDbbk7Gt7+U29nN CIDg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUH3OGQkDziKbOXkRWV5TXnp5BcymOGm8HUHPP+JAOqw5YaH7KD UEYO5kin5tgJG+8xnCUyLZ3/leoWtN4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxSWYCP71dZ0oBh6T8/Z2jQ6wQbFaRa//fDKWf2swQi0F3KM5VK7Xd2Z3BJnEBrNlc2BOEycA== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:3842:: with SMTP id f63mr4926026wma.25.1552731103861; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 03:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tron.luk.heistp.net (h-1169.lbcfree.net. [185.193.85.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u13sm13777147wmf.3.2019.03.16.03.11.43 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 16 Mar 2019 03:11:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Pete Heist Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CC085AAC-A504-4AD5-B649-EEB008667A58" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Message-Id: <862FC3E9-1059-4722-BF3E-6036DC176400@heistp.net> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2019 11:11:42 +0100 To: ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: [Ecn-sane] proving out SCE X-BeenThere: ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2019 10:11:45 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_CC085AAC-A504-4AD5-B649-EEB008667A58 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I=E2=80=99m starting to read Jon=E2=80=99s proposal for modifying TCP CC = for SCE = (https://github.com/dtaht/bufferbloat-rfcs/blob/master/sce/ELR%20Proposal%= 203%20(TCP).txt = ), and get the (perhaps misplaced) feeling that it=E2=80=99= s not that big a stretch to implement, and that proving basic efficacy = may not be that hard. I=E2=80=99d like to do what I can to help before = IETF, so please do post what needs doing, and meanwhile I=E2=80=99ll = just keep reading. Pete p.s.- at least we don=E2=80=99t have to justify bifurcating Internet = congestion control --Apple-Mail=_CC085AAC-A504-4AD5-B649-EEB008667A58 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I=E2=80= =99m starting to read Jon=E2=80=99s proposal for modifying TCP CC for = SCE (https://github.com/dtaht/bufferbloat-rfcs/blob/master/sce/ELR%2= 0Proposal%203%20(TCP).txt), and get the (perhaps misplaced) feeling = that it=E2=80=99s not that big a stretch to implement, and that proving = basic efficacy may not be that hard. I=E2=80=99d like to do what I can = to help before IETF, so please do post what needs doing, and meanwhile = I=E2=80=99ll just keep reading.

Pete

p.s.- at least we = don=E2=80=99t have to justify bifurcating Internet congestion = control

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