From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: Luca Muscariello <muscariello@ieee.org>,
"Rodney W. Grimes" <4bone@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
Cc: ECN-Sane <ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] Meanwhile, over on NANOG...
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:45:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8736esoy00.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH8sseQZkSFKfRCsyrJwwV17bOYbZaBPRm4Q7yRJvOe8vwqvZA@mail.gmail.com>
Luca Muscariello <muscariello@ieee.org> writes:
> TCP anycast fails in this case and I would not blame the load balancer for
> that.
> Some people will have a different opinion on that.
>
> The current Internet just does not support well these use cases.
>
> At the same time this DNS service is supposed to be used in a different
> way. So we may even blame the user? Toke in this case ?
>
> DNS anycast works as long as it uses UDP.
> The IP address returned by the resolver should be unicast and TCP should
> run over unicast addresses.
>
> Toke, Looks like you are doing an HTTP GET directly toward an anycast
> address. This is where things are supposed to break and they break.
I was just using 1.1.1.1 as a convenient example because it's easy to
type. I get the same behaviour to an actual web site hosted on
Cloudflare (which is how I discovered it in the first place). Cloudflare
makes heavy use of anycast, including to its HTTP endpoints.
> If you traceroute over unicast addresses you should see the load
> balancer providing stickiness.
As I replied to Rod, the non-stickiness was indeed user error on my
part. The problem is that the load balancer is hashing on headers
including the ECN bits.
I guess I'll go reply to the NANOG thread... :)
-Toke
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-11-13 10:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-11-12 12:07 Rich Brown
2019-11-12 12:20 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-12 12:25 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-11-12 13:02 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-12 13:54 ` Luca Muscariello
2019-11-12 14:35 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-12 22:01 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-13 0:04 ` Rodney W. Grimes
2019-11-13 8:05 ` Luca Muscariello
2019-11-13 10:45 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2019-11-13 15:36 ` Rodney W. Grimes
2019-11-13 10:43 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-13 15:25 ` Rodney W. Grimes
2019-11-13 15:35 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-13 15:36 ` Luca Muscariello
2019-11-13 15:42 ` Rodney W. Grimes
2019-11-13 15:52 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
List information: https://lists.bufferbloat.net/postorius/lists/ecn-sane.lists.bufferbloat.net/
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=8736esoy00.fsf@toke.dk \
--to=toke@toke.dk \
--cc=4bone@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net \
--cc=ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net \
--cc=muscariello@ieee.org \
--cc=richb.hanover@gmail.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox