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From: Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] draft tsvwg slides #1
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 08:47:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <88B1CA2C-7FCB-4B4B-BAB0-3291EFC91B3F@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AB0147A9-17B7-47CE-8915-F3B4683D909B@gmail.com>


> On Mar 25, 2019, at 8:34 AM, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 25 Mar, 2019, at 1:27 pm, Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe say that *loss* only provides binary signal per RTT
> 
> That's also true of CE, because of the feedback mechanism which involves making ECE sticky for an RTT.  I'm sure that was part of making sure CE was equivalent to loss.
> 
> - Jonathan Morton

OK. I haven't been following this discussion carefully, so am happy to be corrected. 

I would still swap slides 3 & 4 (introduce the new idea before telling people that you're taking over ECT(1))

The plot is (much) better now but could benefit from a narrative. Perhaps the chart could be smaller (since it's much more readable) with a legend on the right to describe what the colors show. (I know you'll say it in the presentation, but a reader won't know what this is about.)

Thanks again!

Rich

PS - And how many minutes do you have left before presenting? :-) Good luck, and have fun!

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-25 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2019-03-25 12:27 ` Rich Brown
2019-03-25 12:34   ` Jonathan Morton
2019-03-25 12:47     ` Rich Brown [this message]
     [not found]       ` <CAJpr3FM+AZXN34j_KS0KA28Hax3rmpyV8PsVXnKn2XGYjkAkmA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-03-25 15:25         ` [Ecn-sane] Fwd: " Bruno George Moraes
2019-03-25 15:42           ` Dave Taht
2019-03-25 12:39   ` [Ecn-sane] " Jeremy Harris
2019-03-25  7:34 Dave Taht
2019-03-25  8:17 ` Dave Taht

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