From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd2f.google.com (mail-io1-xd2f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B34C23B29E; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 00:37:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-io1-xd2f.google.com with SMTP id i7so750759ioo.5; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 21:37:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uU5i9xtefS8yAog/S/ZUMEsA06RhIxaGKCyxyPAZdGU=; b=YGfbOjwH/Zdqjf9Mx/17NTcmBi7EZHCl8zpYEgy+Qfsp1P3rtnzJuuo2+BuGRzMLF1 9tJtdwcU/aULWGvKSAOXTZ7FzoP+1I9F32U5N341z9AxSAAO3TmmF2S4q9nApezoJ5w7 JHCbGrhTczJALlu2s+r+lMGY95sIzaMqA6PZHZ3CGXdWCQaGF7iqBVnduBL58hV5ifWA xoMHUvBB5RyrWLvB2+kPiNQEnN/9o/G1+y8cXElTc6zXd6Glw+iUM6qoqMUK62EfxvVg PWiTm4ZjFqKCLIJ/V/RvT+dqTKws/Lkx1jwhIKc1WEuudQC9OlwZS/DZ+4+nNAT1p16O 3Ycw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uU5i9xtefS8yAog/S/ZUMEsA06RhIxaGKCyxyPAZdGU=; b=SRiOhLbEsAwCi9cmsSZ55DG791qs/gU9o6UqkUDlTAQG/sR59Ay9B7AoArDqB8WeeQ ZjGcekjzBE7K+Q8uSZtcDd33IDdp5XUPOihv5UgUwXmzbpuFO5SjPVYYk1XAz+QYNROA B22rGX97qwq9977bNV2mG+TaemYlhess1bAO/9gDKApfml/gk8++8Y2dD9HRLS3fWVfk vNWff3016su+jQ5Bgv/uh8VTjcwc+8zpvv/hvpyOTwToW8AODdEg4DeHNSFaFobEFbs3 VyQrNLGFaWqXHMtTFlHM9RU0yj7wQc9su3oBUB+L49MiWo+HRtSDQd3PtMExQhEp5RJY Koxg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUfDKmS/Lmm3yZEUelgshjXsz6y/ov0djmAly/TST6WKhfbo8cu Mk9gtwCmYb/y896bfXW/8YEk3JuNmZWrhK28OVQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxsFOdOCUpnoVX3aEzT6ruExjcJauONxscbE+c3MB+ZOMg4wV42oPbECVP7O5npkmTJqGeCETm5/uhJ2gM6IWY= X-Received: by 2002:a02:5b45:: with SMTP id g66mr1204185jab.29.1579844256038; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 21:37:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 21:37:25 -0800 Message-ID: To: Luca Muscariello Cc: ECN-Sane , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] 2019-12-31 docsis strict priority dual queue patent granted X-BeenThere: ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 05:37:36 -0000 On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:21 AM Luca Muscariello wr= ote: > > A Bloom filter based classifier for Bottlenecked vs non bottlenecked flow= s > was done in here in 2005. > > https://team.inria.fr/rap/files/2013/12/KMOR05a.pdf > > And associated patent granted since 2011 > > https://patents.google.com/patent/US7933204B2/en?oq=3DUS7933204B2+United+= States++ I guess they've licensed the related patents here. You missed the "strict priority queue" part... there's nothing in here that explicitly gives "classic" traffic a means to not starve.... one part thereof, of many. "Otherwise, this exemplary embodiment enables system configuration to discard the low-priority packet tail, and transmit the high-priority packet instead, without waiting." > Luca > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 3:29 AM Dave Taht wrote: >> >> I don't normally read patents, but, this one is pretty cable modem >> specific and reads better than the related internet drafts.The >> interaction with maps scheduling is well described. >> >> https://patents.google.com/patent/US10523577B2/en >> >> Of particular irony is the misspelt "fear/flow cueing" and I had >> suggested a bloom fillter in all innocence when some of these ideas >> were first discussed. >> >> There are a few other patents cited of interest. >> >> -- >> Make Music, Not War >> >> Dave T=C3=A4ht >> CTO, TekLibre, LLC >> http://www.teklibre.com >> Tel: 1-831-435-0729 >> _______________________________________________ >> Ecn-sane mailing list >> Ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/ecn-sane --=20 Make Music, Not War Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-435-0729