From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd30.google.com (mail-io1-xd30.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d30]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1C573CB47 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 14:33:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd30.google.com with SMTP id h6so76114685iom.7 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 11:33:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=YMpHb5W1PmUGiEaUmStONID1yiByZXDQce7mocVN6KM=; b=RcOVvfw+CRGfNTYcUG9wJmy0zHYu1FOa5/5TZfcgSRZ/R/d1Kya6llcsnwXoVWecy5 3JL3bli9w1AK1aJlktP8mpXkLii69j0D0XM6irPj0Pcp62d5vpNstbBt28UnvNqraWB4 9882FpU13B+DSUenJVzOV/XqLaSWpAFEt7DAouDiQYcPqXmkib/jpbeWV8hKEw4XT/0Y TOrHFftXtnfpbJXe9/x9FXdZoYnsVx/b7TVhUyPva+BwDzQTom2wHVf0wPNQsLn1shw6 IIk2Jt1v1beU+OPXVzz9bVJGC+6AwDiWOneUCbOeHgqzTtpPXcH501k5zB6jaEyHbatL sl/g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=YMpHb5W1PmUGiEaUmStONID1yiByZXDQce7mocVN6KM=; b=jBWLWf5NJtd5I8n0B/j0+FW7bR0fI7FfpFIJl2z8nNLyLUlewI/vDYuFEPTbEzCLiU P43hgRua4ZcsucZEESCsoMfh76wYe7mgnwfwsLdWQ4KaIb0SjYHuGlHHn0V4gciIAlQ2 yaoOPW+v0geawwyWF6e5LR7dlN/9h8C3W5VI/CrOAVynPsZImghrVvRj7P/aW8Xi55Zp 9jlSmk5T2tDTI2SLLegq5qExSiTv/dANuWl28FC/R21eFZ5+WmlTFjVfrcuE3xPtyAvf QkAJWl/vwxVO1Mp7skpLNQX2DhbCxmQP4Bv2sHDYmOmBKbqnVOaHNJrW9vrMW8CY5NzX gTSw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU1H0db03PTJvklu9IdhUDxt11Xaz4BJlqTIIVt5OoQ7zc50zow tvHxZkbG8MO9BgYfAF2WhCgNkS5dczTKVRjEDvQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwzIiN2+znBHFQipUQk69S6ZMkh7gZcmYiwTalK3yMaEzNNv4ixseGdrp+epaLy24dEuZq9G/6xTJuMvx5mwCs= X-Received: by 2002:a02:7303:: with SMTP id y3mr72936590jab.97.1563820422318; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 11:33:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <364514D5-07F2-4388-A2CD-35ED1AE38405@akamai.com> <1238A446-6E05-4A55-8B3B-878C8F39FC75@gmail.com> <17B33B39-D25A-432C-9037-3A4835CCC0E1@gmail.com> <52F85CFC-B7CF-4C7A-88B8-AE0879B3CCFE@gmail.com> <87ef2myqzv.fsf@taht.net> <803D9CA8-220E-4F98-9B8E-6CE2916C3100@gmail.com> <0079BC6B-4792-48ED-90D3-D9A69407F316@gmx.de> <22af0671-fdd0-0953-fc96-55b34beb0be9@bobbriscoe.net> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 11:33:30 -0700 Message-ID: To: "De Schepper, Koen (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)" Cc: Jonathan Morton , Bob Briscoe , "ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net" , "Black, David" , "tsvwg@ietf.org" , Dave Taht Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] [tsvwg] Comments on L4S drafts X-BeenThere: ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 18:33:43 -0000 Koen: to be utterly clear the principal barrier to me evaluating dualpi at any point was the patent. Still is - has the DCO issue been resolved? But I did look at it and ran it after all this blew up and it's part of my testbeds.