Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet
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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: ECN-Sane <ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: [Ecn-sane] sally floyd's ecn stuff
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 18:17:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw4s+o544=M64YNE4gc184Xmf_Z84Dkj6ZDyekyfdwghAQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

vcp shows slow convergence times:
http://conferences.sigcomm.org/sigcomm/2005/paper-XiaSub.pdf

chock full of good stuff:

http://www.icir.org/floyd/ecn.html#alternate

and: http://www.icir.org/floyd/email/sf.97dec01.txt

"Somehow, it is still the case that roughly 95\% of the
traffic seems to be using some form of vaguely-conformant TCP,
the steady-state packet drop rate is not spiralling up to 10 or 20
percent, and congestion collapse has not yet hit.  I think that we
shouldn't press our luck, and I think that deterrents are indeed
necessary, but I don't think that the addition of ECN makes the job of
providing such deterrents any more difficult, or any more pressing.

I think that the need for such deterrents is already pretty pressing..."


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Dave Täht
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http://www.teklibre.com
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