From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd35.google.com (mail-io1-xd35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A9E53B2A4 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2019 00:51:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd35.google.com with SMTP id o9so13599507iom.3 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2019 21:51:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eJs8xbt5Rg+eqCRx5YC1uQAPHpHQaKqsvTURVhi5Wi8=; b=rZLwTLPSxbOlIwlgg/UX7052ti/ypycGI2NkX0hTw6r6wykALOMKXIttuD4WPTcwLm T/JzHd7qjFmmiuDOtvY6NLa5qJTg23qFdoJ5WHpbIEKx6l9Kkx9gxjY9IZJzlx0TM4tn iTvQ1eoU5juAEv+waEgWJ7zwx2d/gHYcKi5CzYpv9v8KLIBAA/IXtfFeqNQqv3ZEiIFJ KLOq5K/GNHVYaK63Qtpwd5NpwvQ9PIUPhMz6JVekWBZvDy04ATv7CsRMfK8lMk989NlO P7hYR2WDH9BMaXmxGks0ei+OKAes4h/t/gA5GKSuZeFVRAFb/dK+kBMqFN7Rzt65rrSO GH7w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eJs8xbt5Rg+eqCRx5YC1uQAPHpHQaKqsvTURVhi5Wi8=; b=jRB/nZNCpkWfMW6NeG/dNu5ZU5sTP65wexzhSyfqilQ/3lkgDFp5aeqS6B9I5klJnf J6ZF7zJEL88Oh86mKmJnuhMUgHtnnOJJtzeH9Atkv9sQErrIkcvPyYOBaIWNSESVKoPM 4fJHkFkgYGZL+to9KbsnE28lC+0aOYoLl7xaIYXSHuPPdWjr6qVnNn4jP9pcfYcl5Nat G6oZ/ftOfffeitM6sEsUtuP0jxf5/mTe08EXJ/VRT2+7IQ4cNjzW0M+ypoc1ehCw9M9c UI1Cn6spqG18GZH0m2ssTq/B5ART/31YeMvfHF+XXbqDkA84Ez+nVGfMYS7E78sq0nwX ZyJQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXiGHf+PQxIsKSbyf+aCYnDYWWjNJBGWCvOmzLLhzBRqDERUt8n 22G4HVoS46TFhKPKCaM9fb5/QVSHW1a875vtFwOzOA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxXeW7lU930ieDLDWQiDs2MEUj87JoN+H5U068LGa3Q8Vwnxj2fmpnTnxyXz/zXENGbkfaTt+kqxR5szAFc6Go= X-Received: by 2002:a5e:8b43:: with SMTP id z3mr98033349iom.287.1564375860672; Sun, 28 Jul 2019 21:51:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 21:50:49 -0700 Message-ID: To: ECN-Sane Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Ecn-sane] simpler solution for ecn + cwnd < 2 than sub-packet windows X-BeenThere: ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 04:51:01 -0000 Just turn ecn off til it grows to something reasonable. Then normal tcp things start to apply, like RTOs and so on. ? --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-205-9740