From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt0-x22d.google.com (mail-qt0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4A253BA8E for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 15:19:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id z8-v6so13604331qto.9 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2018 12:19:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=J41cFb6Du2JYhaqxZ7OMPdE1ORMhV/eS9tKuw/0Ysew=; b=qeyDCW48U2GUJ/lyhTaQVZtWDZ0EpIR7v6Yjkfqazoc9D+Bdaun5PawAuTkk1dXHx+ ixDiADdPqXiPQCzCSoye9fCkwnHdMWYSdVTsmY/RMztwlJx51o2SixSdvu6YpaPQJt8Q nKlnhe8WIx89PhsSim0/He3m74SgMCKJxpQo7We7cIFpGyi9ZKY/AU5nmvJRFreiYcwa 2Axk6fTmA8D0nj23fX3p/dLjkvmt7lwN8PBZRd2rfX0EGGMDHAd5X4otbmNprNdIIML+ MpwmtP3pSJo0RBEcYLw1cpralsgEKaRFIgfE1mYH5zTX6X949mye+F0ZMBGz/VqPTeLa aijw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=J41cFb6Du2JYhaqxZ7OMPdE1ORMhV/eS9tKuw/0Ysew=; b=OFhQPBIwSYBwc8B4NCtrGsZ+IaC793NsIQLzb4ZD0/rW4l8DNgB8xi8ajWCedMPKaO e0Oy+3EUKLDX9Of2CrhgjQA7otCAsgdNEqgAcazLFHZvPjbJUrGXj0DGpEi0KGoz8Wk9 crvsklXvbU7A4StE3YTVtjct5BHcy8AMobYRqWsKOEVo+gsbniQpV56so4y4YH6I1a8O 7GwclTlLWK4xzzpBc8eWoW+8/v4kb3+xwUjyhm2XzOdZWgjfS79uiWmIpKsnnENu2AV0 WMWMMZcYvW1ORYQOBVOKrGPD8op0Kuao0XirbsetB6E6XSg/SIVW/aisZI/Y6DKX24uo KNeg== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51BaXAXo1wIZe++uIfOq7zPMO4IiUaGMC+dhE10x1HZKGzY1IBRR xM+WPy70PeZ+NyNIz6HJ7YSlNKglu0AGCw6PnkhfJfZP X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0Vdbu5iiKjgXJyb8nQYYYjZWGDKxJ9KroLSVBuaB0vGXOUqsZme5byI+dumwJhrSzxMe46RXLGd6eUHR6gpiWzXg= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:2db3:: with SMTP id p48-v6mr3487161qta.238.1536261586058; Thu, 06 Sep 2018 12:19:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 12:19:34 -0700 Message-ID: To: ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Ecn-sane] an early ecn paper X-BeenThere: ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2018 19:19:46 -0000 I kind of miss when building the wiki was easy. In particular, this old paper did an analysis of a deployment scenario with ever increasing ecn usage. As ecn usage cracks 50% non-ecn using flows get really pounded. http://www.cs.northwestern.edu/~akuzma/doc/ecn.pdf --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-669-226-2619