From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd31.google.com (mail-io1-xd31.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7343C3CB36; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 15:05:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd31.google.com with SMTP id f4so47498013ioh.6; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 12:05:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=hKjAshYb+AmvmjaXHMLu/Ik4233wehgXK61YB/nmvdA=; b=IFYCfzZkXPL3AmUjfLtvkVDadWXZssG9CLG+xU2rONUk5ZdRJsNDG+zUgpevE2TAAn RYQavxLg5bD4crRkRqzy5FrbJam0ml0frNaunTtQTcAW84/tvHxLj7t60jZsPTEqZHWR 58SLRo0ZLGZCeoXHtQp6AYAUVehX2mwJfvd1Fk6U754XLgdnHlncNAzhFdIS8rMVIy8t tLHmJt8jlZxeGHMmfH7WYYe1f1V3vcxTiNLJdz92+eKSDYOFfCDyYpgbCY4m6OM5dMgN s8jAXTcp40HwrNDX5cgxLUOAtg5MKrBn/rKXfTcoaKvrn3mkQTHfX+VzKe+liCR/LkAu F+rg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hKjAshYb+AmvmjaXHMLu/Ik4233wehgXK61YB/nmvdA=; b=uVtufmVIrKAOmL29YmqtNpMWrHF4I6+K3Df+zYMly9CrATfnkA5qa/GQMSixgYSsNB KxhrBg6i5YGumj9dza+nSDwhxCj9kuSVR3nZkPavR7IKhY1MuYJaJ6qp6UPUGDwzaMWo aC1mAVJv1c7SJDkNH+6w08QSeNgfrzwEUnAr+BjDfYkGT571Ha7oVZFOW+JmaIkFI9d8 qXEdAFR800Ibnl684IMLKvG5JjQFeXXPOamOANkZyKeqaBnQ+IIIEJtBwgQm7CKtiJUl k5xY7/Q4E1dFdNlypLn22F7uo1Jn6ym+rqoyP8rNCsDUgpEb/1HAgGivhlck2WmOtjB7 fvdw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWFBW7INZTP/xLfEce2tQ7DgstNKbG+eXWWbu+Sp4qQ1BTDnyq8 UU8xvKbGrOVuWVt1i0pE8mK1CupqkAyd6LUp/xS/XDf+ X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwEc4gbYSL1JA9CScyGjg6gs7PyR332T+cyVIe5PbKFkRthn7P9K7/w4XmcQJodN9W98F/mL9kbBto3yUJNfJs= X-Received: by 2002:a5e:8b43:: with SMTP id z3mr35971868iom.287.1563390304595; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 12:05:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201907171507.x6HF7u7o082245@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <201907171507.x6HF7u7o082245@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 12:04:53 -0700 Message-ID: To: "Rodney W. Grimes" <4bone@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Cc: ECN-Sane , Cake List , Make-Wifi-fast , cerowrt-devel , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] three new internet drafts regarding SCE X-BeenThere: ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 19:05:05 -0000 While I'm catching up on drafts and fiddling with wifi, I couldn't help but notice this one, which adds delay sensitivity to cubic in the context of 5g. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-johansson-cc-for-4g-5g-02