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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>,
	Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	ECN-Sane <ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] [Cake] l4s kernel submission
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 14:01:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw7kwCc9HmfA7X4BzSCS+9UgngXj31d3gb7Aw=XQtQHZMA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw7VVX_6UxyqczSZ3YoDRo9QvRZTqWqY9+0PC=rOB7FjeQ@mail.gmail.com>

An open question for me:

What happens when a GSO packet is marked? Do all the packets get the
marking, or just the first?

On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 3:17 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 3:10 PM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
> >
> > Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 2:44 PM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> writes:
> > >>
> > >> > weirdly enough, my gmail account has not received anything from netdev
> > >> > since oct 11.
> > >>
> > >> You're not alone in that:
> > >> https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20211014112718.6aed7f47@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com/T/#t
> > >
> > > ok. One of these years I'll go back to running my own email server
> > > full time.
> >
> > You can also subscribe to Linux lists by importing the mails from Lore,
> > as one of the replies in the thread above pointed out. Been meaning to
> > switch to that myself, but haven't gotten around to it yet...
>
> I attempted to subscribe again, nothing happened.
>
> figuring out lore... is too much work for today. I'd rather hammer
> small things into oblivion on my boat.
>
> please feel free to pass along my comments and the sce teams findings
> into that thread.
>
> >
> > >> > yes, i think fq_codel will be better, and even the proposed
> > >> > too-shallow threshold will make for less of a dent on the internet.
> > >> >
> > >> > still... I do wish I'd seen this earlier.
> > >>
> > >> Earlier? You forwarded the patch hours after it was posted...
> > >
> > > I have a daily search for fq_codel, bufferbloat, etc. I have noticed
> > > lately that some mailing list traffic from us is being indexed again.
> > > I wish I knew why our lists were not indexed by google.
> > >
> > > Anyway, lacking being on that thread, it's currently impossible to
> > > reply.
> >
> > The Lore page contains instructions for various ways of replying even
> > without having the original email message in your mailbox. It's at the
> > bottom...
> >
> > > That said, the l4s fq_codel patch is intrinsically fair, which is
> > > vastly superior to the dualpi approach.
> >
> > Yup, I agree it's better, but I don't like baking in the ECT(1)
> > semantics to UAPI. I suggested a filter-based approach which I'm
> > currently discussing with Eric on that thread as you might have noticed :)
> >
> > -Toke
>
>
>
> --
> Fixing Starlink's Latencies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9gLo6Xrwgw
>
> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC



-- 
Fixing Starlink's Latencies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9gLo6Xrwgw

Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-16 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-14 20:06 [Ecn-sane] " Dave Taht
2021-10-14 20:31 ` [Ecn-sane] [Cake] " Sebastian Moeller
2021-10-14 21:27   ` Dave Taht
2021-10-14 21:44     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-14 22:00       ` Dave Taht
2021-10-14 22:10         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-14 22:17           ` Dave Taht
2021-10-16  8:04             ` Jonathan Morton
2021-10-16  8:38               ` Sebastian Moeller
2021-10-16  8:54                 ` Jonathan Morton
2021-10-16 10:29                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2021-10-16 12:49                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2021-10-16 16:58               ` Rodney W. Grimes
2021-10-16 21:01             ` Dave Taht [this message]
2021-10-18 13:02               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-19  2:45                 ` Dave Taht
2021-10-19 11:19                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-19 13:30                     ` Dave Taht
2021-10-19 13:34                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2021-10-19 14:16                         ` Dave Taht

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