From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ej1-x62b.google.com (mail-ej1-x62b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11B3D3B2A4 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2022 16:22:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ej1-x62b.google.com with SMTP id d10so13189907eje.10 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2022 13:22:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Nh2UHuEGrbW+NT/fOdqWo+NACe9R6q3Yyf3ComJmh3Q=; b=JLkHbm+R13+mEZOzUJ0T8ocnGLDI2wCJTpWCpG06lFJLV6wQIC8N2hIb8bCvBbnv6L xpKIHN3+cP9JT0xtS1VOHPdwvAE7YX5yyd5THI3VfKWu/SwU8xYqFurFqSKGjNJppqx2 hOe0dgSKgoClVnWwpZDMGiredAMcFvPWm0lmJl9yl/iAyYEpBSEnHNxB1iH6a7yc8TLj ijjcmkN0TphrYSHe0lNwoVSnmZaXDISsk0T1tSUnzeW5pK+o/r4RwIpdQVQRgP/aFNRB DzjA3VmbNPZx6Kpym6/HKp8jnMxxJb12PgVxwFJHuly0vmfPpFFx2H9D1fjl0PPSzc0M FRig== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Nh2UHuEGrbW+NT/fOdqWo+NACe9R6q3Yyf3ComJmh3Q=; b=sei87/UeNy0tknMAF9v4dDrNshowYsK1wnisMPSmEUoDq/5iwIIavahKun98ymErZe sUrgirfXrKRn6hI/N9AMFdfCvVrP7t2TKbnWTFaN+G/rsx34DL/M7ldlSOwM6P7MvxWQ cYNjPyNZ53b2Km+7TfV5/XTI5ufjqLlHHyJDnFuAkc3M2S+sqDBgdL8egLBQ1oo8votN SWbd1y6NeVmGysHhuiPdP5WvRgQ2WPy6FW2QGm1CPYdHYfikdzKnKqCGqTzcUV4J19op ViJyI3VhRraSquz0Oi0RrVz580uEK2KGPeYrP2IjUOMil1Hcz/J+3wAC5o0d1eT13Kqw xGAA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532Tcwnx0uDowINWFIHhr41FeCHj73fp62tZyQe7Yi6LC1J2g1DL kL7mFN83Oanxj3qYmpOyPoqMKy40dK2vpQr/ZuKquWHvDDo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxGWx+yl5EblD5ye1vUPcoBN2nBl0qEyjm8mH2Vny5MSP8ccRyAuXpvA+ftr1rgNP9PsZIj+RUCsxKIvlvTLSM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:8681:b0:6ce:d45f:1689 with SMTP id g1-20020a170906868100b006ced45f1689mr7367603ejx.183.1645824150679; Fri, 25 Feb 2022 13:22:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 16:22:18 -0500 Message-ID: To: ECN-Sane Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Ecn-sane] for the record... X-BeenThere: ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 21:22:32 -0000 I don't understand the "immediately forgotten" part of this plot. For pure non-ect traffic should have hit 50% drop and more or less stayed there. With a mix of ect and non ect traffic we should have hit the drop_batch facility a lot and never got to a right drop rate. https://l4steam.github.io/overload-results/ --=20 I tried to build a better future, a few times: https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC