Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet
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From: Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@google.com>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
	ECN-Sane <ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	BBR Development <bbr-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	flent-users <flent-users@flent.org>
Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] [bbr-dev] duplicating the BBRv2 tests at iccrg in flent?
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2019 07:56:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADVnQym2AjiQX-CjAC0MLcDzQhZAWEae-bU_ttyxHCVQUEOHqA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3EDC8EAC-1EB2-4E64-8973-8AE177D8789C@gmail.com>

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On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 12:20 PM Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > On 5 Apr, 2019, at 6:10 pm, 'Neal Cardwell' via BBR Development <
> bbr-dev@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >
> > Right. I didn't mean setting the codel target to 242us. Where the slide
> says "Linux codel with ECN ce_threshold at 242us sojourn time" I literally
> mean a Linux machine with a codel qdisc configured as:
> >
> >   codel ce_threshold 242us
>
> I infer from this that BBR's new ECN support won't work properly with
> standard CE marking behaviour, only with the sort of signal that DCTCP
> requires.  Is that accurate?
>

Yes, that's correct. Thus far BBR v2 is targeting only DCTCP/L4S-style ECN.


> SCE allows providing that sort of high-fidelity congestion signal without
> losing interoperability with RFC-3168 compliant flows.
>

Noted, thanks.

neal

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-06 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-05  7:42 [Ecn-sane] " Dave Taht
2019-04-05 15:10 ` [Ecn-sane] [bbr-dev] " Neal Cardwell
2019-04-05 15:51   ` Dave Taht
2019-04-05 16:58     ` Neal Cardwell
2019-04-05 16:20   ` Jonathan Morton
2019-04-06 11:56     ` Neal Cardwell [this message]
2019-04-06 14:37       ` [Ecn-sane] [Flent-users] " Sebastian Moeller
2019-04-09  1:33         ` Neal Cardwell
2019-04-09  2:09           ` Jonathan Morton
2019-04-09  6:30           ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-04-09 14:33             ` Neal Cardwell
2019-04-09 17:20               ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-04-06 11:49   ` [Ecn-sane] " Dave Taht
2019-04-06 12:31     ` Neal Cardwell

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