From: Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org>
To: Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net>
Cc: "Holland, Jake" <jholland@akamai.com>,
"ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net"
<ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
tsvwg IETF list <tsvwg@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] [tsvwg] per-flow scheduling
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 10:20:29 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJU8_nUmQgbRcpKchjLN_N+QhLtiPmTZDP6c-D1K899SsAtQLQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <350f8dd5-65d4-d2f3-4d65-784c0379f58c@bobbriscoe.net>
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On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 10:13 AM Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net> wrote:
> Jake, all,
>
> You may not be aware of my long history of concern about how per-flow
> scheduling within endpoints and networks will limit the Internet in
> future. I find per-flow scheduling a violation of the e2e principle in
> such a profound way - the dynamic choice of the spacing between packets
> - that most people don't even associate it with the e2e principle.
>
> I detected that you were talking about FQ in a way that might have
> assumed my concern with it was just about implementation complexity. If
> you (or anyone watching) is not aware of the architectural concerns with
> per-flow scheduling, I can enumerate them.
>
I would certainly be interested in reading more about these concerns. Even
a reference that I can read out-of-band would be fine. Thanks, Bob.
Kyle
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Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-19 14:12 [Ecn-sane] " Bob Briscoe
2019-06-19 14:20 ` Kyle Rose [this message]
2019-06-21 6:59 ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-06-21 9:33 ` Luca Muscariello
2019-06-21 20:37 ` [Ecn-sane] [tsvwg] " Brian E Carpenter
2019-06-22 19:50 ` David P. Reed
2019-06-22 20:47 ` Jonathan Morton
2019-06-22 22:03 ` Luca Muscariello
2019-06-22 22:09 ` David P. Reed
2019-06-22 23:07 ` Jonathan Morton
2019-06-24 18:57 ` David P. Reed
2019-06-24 19:31 ` Jonathan Morton
2019-06-24 19:50 ` David P. Reed
2019-06-24 20:14 ` Jonathan Morton
2019-06-25 21:05 ` David P. Reed
2019-06-24 21:25 ` Luca Muscariello
2019-06-26 12:48 ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-06-26 16:31 ` David P. Reed
2019-06-26 16:53 ` David P. Reed
2019-06-27 7:54 ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-06-27 7:49 ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-06-27 20:33 ` Brian E Carpenter
2019-06-27 21:31 ` David P. Reed
2019-06-28 7:49 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-06-27 7:53 ` Bless, Roland (TM)
2019-06-22 21:10 ` Brian E Carpenter
2019-06-22 22:25 ` David P. Reed
2019-06-22 22:30 ` Luca Muscariello
2019-07-17 21:33 ` [Ecn-sane] " Sebastian Moeller
2019-07-17 22:18 ` David P. Reed
2019-07-17 22:34 ` David P. Reed
2019-07-17 23:23 ` Dave Taht
2019-07-18 0:20 ` Dave Taht
2019-07-18 5:30 ` Jonathan Morton
2019-07-18 15:02 ` David P. Reed
2019-07-18 16:06 ` Dave Taht
2019-07-18 4:31 ` Jonathan Morton
2019-07-18 15:52 ` David P. Reed
2019-07-18 18:12 ` [Ecn-sane] [tsvwg] " Dave Taht
2019-07-18 5:24 ` [Ecn-sane] " Jonathan Morton
2019-07-22 13:44 ` Bob Briscoe
2019-07-23 5:00 ` Jonathan Morton
2019-07-23 11:35 ` [Ecn-sane] CNQ cheap-nasty-queuing (was per-flow queuing) Luca Muscariello
2019-07-23 20:14 ` [Ecn-sane] per-flow scheduling Bob Briscoe
2019-07-23 22:24 ` Jonathan Morton
2019-07-23 15:12 ` [Ecn-sane] [tsvwg] " Kyle Rose
2019-07-25 19:25 ` Holland, Jake
2019-07-27 15:35 ` Kyle Rose
2019-07-27 19:42 ` Jonathan Morton
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