From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pf1-x434.google.com (mail-pf1-x434.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::434]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFF3C3B29E for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 19:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pf1-x434.google.com with SMTP id v12so743720pfn.10 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 16:29:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mounce.com.au; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=s+R6z7F2+JR9H+3E9/5ITvFa4RM9I7UXOqCtDe6TJow=; b=Zvx+SkRCz+JtAL9NLvZLOZQO83MhXpTpsk2RTtecLvNifIimX1UP1d2TbQT9++iyqu f0ETU5oYrkW7+o0sqhGOho9JouHwrK2m5OfqTFnFG2YULWnamifkR3LgTsshbuX57zC/ 5qUB3zAFSfWRdgwaiydfi9G5RXoJL2i1j8eCWDFJ+0Ca3s7eMYQ3vBpMYwEMtDKal0oL Gc7o+5U1nHC2S8N2cH7XlxmL2AkJgjnJgOGvsb64NVVFy6IqoUXDJFCDo8pBikZbGF3g pBpvbWQcPsf4sqyCDRj1x1RRUPY+XH3BI9dfoldL+HXyMSIZ3bdvzembZ56hC5rIwD/o pxEg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=s+R6z7F2+JR9H+3E9/5ITvFa4RM9I7UXOqCtDe6TJow=; b=IFJnKxyZrfOpwj/oR1YRC7UvUVQUwkeMuZJ7st6BM38c32gJfXdP28o7ZcgZ5GnpQU 0m+HQD20R/BigopZ7u0Sc8g01qLnnFarBU0srJJtoBR5mqZ2Em4uWWDrcEbcYwDCJi2s lIIzyFz2TR+JodlfwpsFYrRpEJIZKp3ODFNk4G/tBfDQ2aBKakeMSPvt3tMDxU0lGD7t apzdgD7et9Qfz3hIZ0xEp+VvJYTcboGzPOuf0T/yI0xZhR4Pa5Q1RCnc/wERHyul8Ssv /3fvus0Da/APOWNFzK2FBo7fXNTiNRYK3Glc35oGGBWflU9lMs3shQQju6wIiu9qDjia Uu/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWctDhxVbUFTbOSct43qcdW5lrid3yTQ3BRoa+9vO65u/mqjYuW ZPn0Io6mxBZUQIbrUC/OwX6NBaAlqSTJWw1b8jNZVw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzJqh6fAmo54KUDYli0I9iOZBKnOruz6+zbFZj9Xh0UlIJDtcNEC5spoudMYcNt0ieuTucr52tFGCnYjnkwEt4= X-Received: by 2002:a63:e306:: with SMTP id f6mr5549367pgh.39.1567034995704; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 16:29:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4471314E-BACE-4EEA-B954-9795833764E3@ifi.uio.no> <95DAF9B7-8944-48D3-A4BD-A846CEAAF12B@ifi.uio.no> In-Reply-To: <95DAF9B7-8944-48D3-A4BD-A846CEAAF12B@ifi.uio.no> From: Ryan Mounce Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 08:59:44 +0930 Message-ID: To: Michael Welzl Cc: Dave Taht , ECN-Sane Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000451e49059135c48f" Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] osx ecn X-BeenThere: ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 23:29:56 -0000 --000000000000451e49059135c48f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 at 04:30, Michael Welzl wrote: > > > On Aug 27, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 11:54 PM Michael Welzl wrote= : > > > run it as root - strange, yes, but then the output is very different. > > cheers, > michael > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > speaking of iphones I have no idea what they do nowadays, any odds you > could do a packet > cap either on it or at a server or via wifi on a middlebox > > > I wouldn=E2=80=99t know =E2=80=A6 but I can guess: some years ago, I did = a =E2=80=9Cjailbreak=E2=80=9D on > my iPhone, and as a result, I could ssh into it. > So I=E2=80=99m guessing: if you do this with a current one, you can proba= bly still > ssh into it and then perhaps run netstat. > > Cheers, > Michael > You sure can :) https://gist.github.com/rmounce/74dd5e92e6304688219024349bfaad0e -Ryan > -- Regards, Ryan Mounce ryan@mounce.com.au 0415 799 929 Sent from mobile --000000000000451e49059135c48f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 at 04:30, Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no> wrote:


<= blockquote type=3D"cite">
On Aug 27, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:

On Mo= n, Aug 26, 2019 at 11:54 PM Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no> wrote:

run it as root - strange, yes, b= ut then the output is very different.

cheers,
michael


= Sent from my iPhone

speaking of iphones I have no idea w= hat they do nowadays, any odds you
could do a packet
cap = either on it or at a server or via wifi on a middlebox

I wouldn=E2=80=99t know =E2=80=A6 b= ut I can guess: some years ago, I did a =E2=80=9Cjailbreak=E2=80=9D on my i= Phone, and as a result, I could ssh into it.
So I=E2=80=99m guess= ing: if you do this with a current one, you can probably still ssh into it = and then perhaps run netstat.

Cheers,
Mi= chael
--
Regards,
Ryan Mounce

= ryan@mounce.com.au
0415 799 92= 9

Sent from mobile
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