Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet
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From: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
Cc: Dave Taht <dave@taht.net>,
	"ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net" <ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	"tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>,
	Jonathan Foulkes <jfoulkes@evenroute.com>
Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] is FQ actually widely deployed?
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 11:20:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CEECD0B0-7081-42DE-AA2C-5061749C9232@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1907221609330.19225@uplift.swm.pp.se>

> On 22 Jul, 2019, at 10:14 am, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote:
> 
> Do we have numbers on how much FQ is actually out there? If we don't, can we measure it? Anyone know of devices shipping or being designed that does FQ of some kind?

Linux and OSX end hosts now routinely run fq_codel by default.  That's an awfully large installed base, both of FQ and of Codel.  It is perhaps worth observing that these are rarely bottlenecks for Internet paths, though they might be for LAN paths.

The IQrouter is probably the best example of a commercial middlebox that does FQ, in this case using Cake.  I hear that it is now being sold in re-branded form to certain large ISPs, but I could be wrong about that.  I've CC'd Jonathan Foulkes for comment.

There's also a large French ISP which has done fq_codel on its last mile for quite some time.

 - Jonathan Morton

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-22 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-22 14:14 Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-07-22 15:20 ` Jonathan Morton [this message]
2019-07-22 17:05   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-07-22 18:02     ` Pete Heist
2019-07-23  5:32     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-07-23  5:57       ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-07-23  6:06         ` Jonathan Morton
2019-07-22 22:14   ` Jonathan Foulkes
2019-07-22 22:24     ` Jonathan Morton
2019-07-22 17:09 ` Dave Taht
2019-07-23  5:34   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-07-23  6:13     ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-07-23  6:21       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-07-23 10:57         ` Dave Taht

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