From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lj1-x22e.google.com (mail-lj1-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E2D73CB4B for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 14:54:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lj1-x22e.google.com with SMTP id y6so3183871ljd.12 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 11:54:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=nslXIOR06QVSN7DuEPJG53wwuf2DqPcfuArg0AiEKcE=; b=rPCmx4MKjecXJTRexXd1NAJGcqx2eH6Uk/syGnu0shh10kxIpd/8hPlZOSZlquTSqX qoZyFZzFqcfAUk3KZGIww3ZNzfKZ1FFglK/LjZPEiAhyw9DMymZq2mhseeLru/BwW0IR yKb+HWyopXkbHQlzU+zukPY+2XmvEPfVqOAqDTqlJneiu7152VhLJ2LQAu0a+w18CQU/ xC0PFa9qwVSQzEMc4oCPfaXKlfHrtAvGMsEQbHXaRnhg71/HbVRAmJVNDlBs1QrA2J2w hAObtEITX2d2hCApUg6flSwB5YCs3e2MMkQddJdijAa44LywiuGL+U8s+pAX7pVVoBlY as2g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=nslXIOR06QVSN7DuEPJG53wwuf2DqPcfuArg0AiEKcE=; b=NtiVjbamCV0DJjWV6L72DhIEZ7kfCZgyLRTCgNNkHCTOUuZiF66aahsxON4UfhgVLF bpnnwN4rRMSXmzZ2qTy4VM7zt6KhnJsTP6TqYBnd3OdJvsbilgD8ALKRhy3zUBb/KOx5 hSvFdVWAO1fAsuIB/jg7L4rLQ0lr+oR30nNZRMnQVmwQqPuCzdAxtVpvwrwLsQe/mRiD WOu2G5oj21fB7p9ltk9QyivjGraNho7y1LA9Fzu6kS56D5UTjOqa3Zd5tGTBiOF4wkzX YjrM6K3yvMqwJqBRVHRiwlkO2mLcbbJXwOb/JfZM9yYGGOQjpRg7t7Rz0adkndzemA32 l5oQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXYieXyrM//xpKSoOpvksmh0SDfQ+Un257pKC5ueFP8yshF5xy0 lNf8Kli/mGYeV/3rJBF4c7yu34h7 X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzBJzJ4unuJhvgLTFBwvezIwyBUK7NoIs7jHVGW6RB5FdU/hbYIZaeRf/5wJS34OQkRLeRiLA== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:988f:: with SMTP id b15mr17807452ljj.25.1553108081553; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 11:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jonathartonsmbp.lan (83-245-226-9-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi. [83.245.226.9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q2sm465992ljq.19.2019.03.20.11.54.40 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Mar 2019 11:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: <70B7A260-EFBC-4556-88E5-B241C4B7ADA9@heistp.net> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 20:54:39 +0200 Cc: ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <70B7A260-EFBC-4556-88E5-B241C4B7ADA9@heistp.net> To: Pete Heist X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] fq_codel_fast ECN signals vs number of flows X-BeenThere: ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:54:42 -0000 > On 20 Mar, 2019, at 8:49 pm, Pete Heist wrote: >=20 > It=E2=80=99s still surprising though that with one flow that there=E2=80= =99s really just one CE signal then that=E2=80=99s it, yet the rate is = limited without drops. Is that somehow caused by TSQ? Yes, that's expected in Linux if the bottleneck queue is local to the = sender. - Jonathan Morton