Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet
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From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: "ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net" <ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	 bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] [Bloat] [tsvwg] [iccrg] Fwd: [tcpPrague] Implementation and experimentation of TCP Prague/L4S hackaton at IETF104
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 09:31:03 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1903210929140.3161@uplift.swm.pp.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1903210850300.3161@uplift.swm.pp.se>

On Thu, 21 Mar 2019, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:

> I might not agree with how these people decide networks should be built, 
> but that's unfortunately the way things look in a lot of cases. Telling 
> them to just do "FQ, how hard can it be?". Typically, the answer is 
> "hard, for a multitude of reasons".

Btw, in 
http://1ukcym66nom10cmylunctf84-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/TR-156_Issue-2-1.pdf 
5.2.x you can see how scheduling is done. If you'd like something like 
that changed then anything new needs to go into documents like these in 
order to get further deplyment.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-21  8:31 UTC|newest]

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2019-03-15 10:46   ` [Ecn-sane] " Dave Taht
     [not found]     ` <1E80578D-A589-4CA0-9015-B03B63042355@gmx.de>
2019-03-15 14:06       ` [Ecn-sane] [Bloat] " Dave Taht
2019-03-15 15:52         ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-03-15 17:01           ` David P. Reed
2019-03-15 17:45             ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-03-15 18:36             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-03-15 19:23               ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-03-15 19:32               ` Jonathan Morton
2019-03-15 19:44                 ` David P. Reed
2019-03-15 20:13                   ` Jonathan Morton
2019-03-15 23:43                     ` David P. Reed
2019-03-16  1:26                       ` Jonathan Morton
2019-03-16  7:38                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-03-16 18:56                         ` Michael Richardson
2019-03-15 20:28                 ` Jonathan Foulkes
2019-03-15 20:31                   ` Dave Taht
2019-03-15 23:45                     ` David P. Reed
2019-03-16  9:42                       ` Michael Welzl
2019-03-16 10:08                         ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-03-16 10:23                           ` Nils Andreas Svee
2019-03-16 14:55                             ` Jonathan Foulkes
2019-03-16 21:38               ` Holland, Jake
2019-03-16 21:57                 ` Vint Cerf
2019-03-16 22:03                   ` Dave Taht
2019-03-16 22:05                   ` Holland, Jake
2019-03-17 18:07                   ` David P. Reed
2019-03-17 18:05                     ` Vint Cerf
2019-03-19  4:44                     ` Greg White
2019-03-19  5:35                       ` Jonathan Morton
2019-03-19  5:52                         ` Greg White
2019-03-19  7:10                           ` Jonathan Morton
2019-03-19  8:07                             ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-03-19  8:50                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-03-19 23:59                       ` Dave Taht
2019-03-20 10:17                         ` Sebastian Moeller
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2019-03-20 22:12                               ` [Ecn-sane] [Bloat] [tsvwg] " Sebastian Moeller
2019-03-20 22:31                                 ` Jonathan Morton
2019-03-20 22:56                                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-03-20 23:03                                     ` Jonathan Morton
2019-03-20 23:11                                     ` Holland, Jake
2019-03-20 23:28                                       ` Jonathan Morton
2019-03-21  8:15                                         ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-03-21  8:31                                           ` Mikael Abrahamsson [this message]
2019-03-20 23:30                                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-03-21  0:15                                         ` Holland, Jake
2019-03-16 22:03                 ` [Ecn-sane] [Bloat] " Jonathan Morton
2019-03-16 22:09                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-03-17 14:06                 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-03-17 17:37                   ` Loganaden Velvindron
2019-03-17 17:40                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-03-17 17:44                     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-03-17 18:00                       ` Dave Taht
2019-03-17 19:38                     ` Rodney W. Grimes
2019-03-17 20:50                   ` Luca Muscariello
2019-03-17 21:51                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-03-18  4:26                     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-03-16  4:04             ` Jonathan Morton
2019-03-16  4:51               ` Dave Taht
2019-03-15 18:07         ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-03-15 14:27       ` Jonathan Morton
2019-03-15 14:44         ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-03-15 15:49           ` Jonathan Morton
2019-03-15 21:34     ` Wesley Eddy

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