From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from uplift.swm.pp.se (ipv6.swm.pp.se [IPv6:2a00:801::f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E6853CB35 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 07:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix, from userid 501) id C2D5AB0; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 13:25:32 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=swm.pp.se; s=mail; t=1573561532; bh=re4WksMcfpd5psB+muLir32LIc5ZY3zLgKiPCe4pVEw=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=y73r5DaLsc/YvK0S6PVzXy7Bwl8cyBx7p5pcbAZPCah2tLiaoircab59FCSSPZ5jl lHf9KEmBGeLyOBSJfQQ86gUkjegjoqRNAINlDwYivD0QDgeurscx+SvAusndYhaxpF oSiXG7NKWnFuAIUiZ8OqQsPjb3xJFXnFMHlVfITo= Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0598AF; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 13:25:32 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 13:25:32 +0100 (CET) From: Mikael Abrahamsson To: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Toke_H=F8iland-J=F8rgensen?= cc: Rich Brown , ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: <87y2wlp9p4.fsf@toke.dk> Message-ID: References: <1CF67BBC-B528-4667-97AE-760DCE027466@gmail.com> <87y2wlp9p4.fsf@toke.dk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) Organization: People's Front Against WWW MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; BOUNDARY="-137064504-1636640663-1573561532=:24093" Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] Meanwhile, over on NANOG... X-BeenThere: ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 12:25:34 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---137064504-1636640663-1573561532=:24093 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Tue, 12 Nov 2019, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > I'm not on the nanog list, but feel free to cross-post; would be good to > actually get to the bottom of this issue! Marek and I already had an > off-list back-and-forth after that original thread, and we couldn't find > anything wrong on the Cloudflare side. And the RSTs have a higher TTL > than the actual traffic, indicating an in-path problem... tcptraceroute supports setting/clearing ECN bits (-E), would be very interesting to see difference between those tcptraceroutes? -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se ---137064504-1636640663-1573561532=:24093--