Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet
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From: Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: ECN-Sane <ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] mosh ecn bits washed out
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 09:25:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bc033e58bb1457d93a1dc66b197671faf6855b6f.camel@heistp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw7w3vvTJf+HdK4rY_VVbzbrcfG+Xq9=k3nrGN2RkXX00A@mail.gmail.com>

Meaning, the negotiation succeeds and ECT(0) is set going up, but
zeroed on packets by the time they come down?

The negotiation can also be blocked with iptables --ecn-tcp-remove,
which just zeroes out ECE and CWR, preventing negotiation
(https://git.netfilter.org/iptables/tree/extensions/libipt_ECN.c), but
I doubt that's very commonly done.

On Thu, 2021-03-18 at 13:00 -0700, Dave Taht wrote:
> mosh, which has long had excellent support for ecn, appears to be
> getting the
> ecn bit washed out along my path from california to england.
> 
> ecn survives up that way, but not down.
> 
> Just a single data point thus far.
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-19  8:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-18 20:00 Dave Taht
2021-03-19  8:25 ` Pete Heist [this message]
2021-03-19  8:56   ` Sebastian Moeller
2021-03-19  9:18     ` [Ecn-sane] re-marking ECT(1) to ECT(0) (was: mosh ecn bits washed out) Pete Heist
2021-03-19 14:24       ` Sebastian Moeller
2021-03-19 14:08   ` [Ecn-sane] mosh ecn bits washed out Dave Taht
2021-03-19 14:59     ` Pete Heist
2021-03-19 15:26       ` Dave Taht
2021-03-20  5:24         ` Mikael Abrahamsson

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