From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from korolev.univ-paris7.fr (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3301:8000::1:2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E74643CB37; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 17:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [81.194.30.253]) by korolev.univ-paris7.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/relay1/82085) with ESMTP id 42ELNesI004639; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 22:23:40 +0100 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A63832E1; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 22:23:39 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=irif.fr; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:message-id:date:date :received:received; s=dkim-irif; t=1710451418; x=1711315419; bh= YmfwaFnibWk0igdasceA585unDn4zOQD9dJl0G6O8cI=; b=fpP7oUjEuO62NlvZ nzTL/dZYmWNUGFTrMl3jiqlRbzROF9e1FdXjbeMkqdcMEEhabyOMpL8zQ0Rcibkc NZ1FW1c2ttuVmmHEb4RgOT5dHJvvHhTYJbFNmVivq7GYQ/XZ6nW/IhQNjz7DL+mg DV//7/wY6zjEyb+VbDGfFeUOCbUHZinGhKr5PhVH11o/GcCoukquH3kgYpiUkW5p 0I0tFCs2ytaduy59L8JlaulPXcXbCoBuuq4x9krZM5Wz/bFms3wKQtBd72oFCB+6 d5VWjp3oJw2mOVWKiMtleoDcDo5yn+i3Bmd5DIcofQayhKs8PbDpToBu2SZaZuzy zJldZA== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at math.univ-paris-diderot.fr Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10023) with ESMTP id FlXXGplG9oPN; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 22:23:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from pirx.irif.fr (unknown [178.73.47.51]) (Authenticated sender: jch) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DC8E1835AC; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 22:23:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 22:23:37 +0100 Message-ID: <871q8cfqxy.wl-jch@irif.fr> From: Juliusz Chroboczek To: Dave Taht Cc: libreqos , bloat In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/29.2 Mule/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [194.254.61.138]); Thu, 14 Mar 2024 22:23:40 +0100 (CET) X-Miltered: at korolev with ID 65F36ADC.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 65F36ADC.000 from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/null/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 65F36ADC.000 on korolev.univ-paris7.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.000 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Subject: Re: [LibreQoS] [Bloat] Fwd: [RFC PATCH net-next 0/5] net: In-kernel QUIC implementation with Userspace handshake X-BeenThere: libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Many ISPs need the kinds of quality shaping cake can do List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 21:23:43 -0000 > quic takes over Now if only thay had gotten the layering right... such a terrible wasted opportunity. (SCTP forever!) -- Juliusz