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From: Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr>
To: Frantisek Borsik <frantisek.borsik@gmail.com>
Cc: libreqos <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	"Dave Taht via Starlink" <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	"Jeremy Austin via Rpm" <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	bloat-ietf@lists.bufferbloat.net,
	"Cake List" <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
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	codel-wireless@lists.bufferbloat.net,
	Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	"Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects
	heard this time!" <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	"Herbert Wolverson" <hwolverson@libreqos.io>,
	"Frantisek (Frank) Borsik" <frank@libreqos.io>,
	"Robert Chacón" <robert@libreqos.io>
Subject: Re: [LibreQoS] [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 23:55:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v7rmxm7e.wl-jch@irif.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJUtOOizHZCey6KihyRHkZ9N4FJwyzuM5RL6QXPejCSWnbPE3g@mail.gmail.com>

It was many years ago.

Dave was in Paris, but I was busy.  I told him I didn't have time to take
him to a fancy restaurant, but we could have lunch at an ordinary
brasserie.  We met at noon, got a table.  Dave was observing the habitués
drinking their white wine at the counter, the office workers having steak
and salad, the young people not quite sure whether it's a date.

There was no Enligh-language menu, of course, but the owner, a lady way
above retirement age, who spoke French with a strong Parisian accent,
turned out to speak remarkably good English.  I had steak, Dave had fish,
if I recall correctly.  The white wine was decent, the red was okay.

I'm sure we discussed bufferbloat, Dave encouraged me not to give up on
Babel, I must have told him about my students, we probably slandered the
IETF.  I likely didn't have dessert, I don't remember whether Dave did.

I went to the counter, ordered two coffees.  Un express et un américano,
s'il-vous-plaît.  The lady stared at me blankly.  Un américano, right?
Young man, she said, you're not going to tell me how to make un américano,
but your friend, he has to learn to drink proper coffee.  It's going to be
deux express.

Dave was very brave that day.

-- Juliusz



      parent reply	other threads:[~2025-04-02 21:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-01 17:27 [LibreQoS] " Frantisek Borsik
2025-04-01 17:31 ` [LibreQoS] [Starlink] " Vint Cerf
2025-04-01 17:51   ` Michiel Leenaars
2025-04-01 17:49 ` [LibreQoS] [Bloat] " Jim Gettys
     [not found] ` <mailman.824.1743528682.1142.cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2025-04-01 17:53   ` [LibreQoS] [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] " Joel Wirāmu Pauling
2025-04-01 17:57 ` [LibreQoS] [Bloat] " Stuart Cheshire
2025-04-01 18:36   ` [LibreQoS] [Starlink] " Sebastian Moeller
2025-04-01 19:24     ` Oleg Kutkov
2025-04-01 18:32 ` [LibreQoS] [Starlink] " Jim Forster
2025-04-01 18:53 ` [LibreQoS] [Bloat] " Simon Barber
2025-04-01 19:02 ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-04-01 19:52 ` [LibreQoS] [Cake] " Loganaden Velvindron
2025-04-01 20:32 ` [LibreQoS] [Bloat] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-04-01 20:38   ` Sina Khanifar
2025-04-02  0:58   ` Georgios Amanakis
2025-04-01 20:56 ` [LibreQoS] [Starlink] " Nishanth Sastry
2025-04-02  1:21 ` [LibreQoS] [Bloat] " David Lang
2025-04-02  2:12   ` [LibreQoS] [Starlink] " Spencer Sevilla
2025-04-02  4:19     ` Omer Shapira
2025-04-02  6:06       ` J Pan
2025-04-02  9:06   ` [LibreQoS] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
     [not found]     ` <976DC4FC-44CA-4C7E-90E0-DE39B57F01E1@comcast.com>
2025-04-02 13:59       ` Livingood, Jason
2025-04-02 15:06         ` Daniel Sterling
2025-04-02 19:51         ` [LibreQoS] [Cake] " David P. Reed
2025-04-03  3:28           ` [LibreQoS] [Starlink] " the keyboard of geoff goodfellow
2025-04-12  9:45           ` [LibreQoS] [Make-wifi-fast] " Loganaden Velvindron
2025-04-12 11:12             ` Vint Cerf
2025-04-12 11:17               ` Loganaden Velvindron
2025-04-12 13:23                 ` Frantisek Borsik
2025-04-12 14:46                   ` Vint Cerf
2025-04-22  5:53                     ` Loganaden Velvindron
2025-04-22 14:04                       ` [LibreQoS] [EXTERNAL] " Livingood, Jason
2025-04-23  6:49                         ` Frantisek Borsik
2025-06-06 12:58                         ` Richard Roy
2025-06-06 13:11                           ` [LibreQoS] [Bloat] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] " Frantisek Borsik
2025-04-16 21:18                 ` [LibreQoS] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] [Bloat] " Frantisek Borsik
2025-04-12 18:40             ` Robert McMahon
     [not found]           ` <a4u5tdrfpa6qlhxj2qo74ty2w7sjb6jvxedsuyuhc6jpjkuczb@sl64aionlyc6>
2025-06-06 10:58             ` [LibreQoS] [Starlink] " Frantisek Borsik
2025-04-02  8:17 ` [LibreQoS] [Cake] " Siim Ošur
2025-04-02 14:52 ` [LibreQoS] [Starlink] " Sauli Kiviranta
2025-04-02 15:35 ` [LibreQoS] [Bloat] " Nils Andreas Svee
2025-04-02 21:29   ` [LibreQoS] [Starlink] " Larry Press
2025-04-02 16:18 ` [LibreQoS] " Jonathan Corbet
2025-04-02 20:33 ` jf
2025-04-02 21:55 ` Juliusz Chroboczek [this message]

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