From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pl1-x636.google.com (mail-pl1-x636.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::636]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B24F3CB41 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 16:53:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pl1-x636.google.com with SMTP id d9so5157621pll.7 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 13:53:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=+3w4j+Dbdz5vqUStyGhx5YNTs8clLYsqaOXJIODh1ek=; b=oPM4TxiVi3UDW5OW2Ci2qAe2isyYGM6hcLbJa8cx/VDblM3L6pLI2By/D0j9nk2YUD I2Beu47PWG0UWYRxaVOTwjWMmm+3TZZ9b7Jhlikl8GISGC3GLaqEyCxsmOdQq6VHhrHt n+KgVMs37aCQpWHK2JU2E5IWXqP+biricUy0PfNad5XP7UnMUFH16/pUAU5Mbdb0ZkrS xZ7F0F+EnWupkW6XcUrscByipPR77n5ATziMBmNzTznRgRH57mwHCM4oYzLcVfqL9RRp ZkcgHAJ00PePQ2RmJx81Ya53S9kbQkpgRT1Qf3F7qFTK28h2mB0lx2BVOg/p49y4n9Uk 29KA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=+3w4j+Dbdz5vqUStyGhx5YNTs8clLYsqaOXJIODh1ek=; b=ebaQ1sZcSk9ro1apQmJ7vq2v/nMMQewzKC/CHq/6bgED4ChyMdcgAPGpNAxyb0vV4p 5EvsmpohPn8zv8jVfU3nIYCZn47Ae1Jq0xVAwdyXE8uAQfppFI6C1g6CojNBpIcq1FUq T7QzyTNc+KavQOgQs3EJggtm2y9QGIx718WkDEFpXCa6S9kcon0Cbg0zVy46Cf4EMg5x E1wbGYofkKE40lQhSx8rYqmHd/naL7N3uMt9oAErZgfdigZZWeRtsAZCIKJs+hxw9+LI wynTHmuELwj1t9E1I4RIW0E6DLCMAiPi5K2tgCe8jbUoyXVgg3/ix4dWfEymzElgeA+1 9YOQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf1WEQDo/7y7s/cY1EqC8TYzpi/AHa6ic1x6pKbJmdRL51oZkqO5 PJnmw5Z+KbXEwEeEWmJIGasAKUEgW6gpNIeui/mhJfQwukU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM7dst8uXpNAUv+UoMsmPEtZno0SNbdm9dxOwLYttQo843ovbAf8PRLLRmxusVWvabP1SMV+4iOvoixiafIJOWo= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:4b90:b0:213:6a84:b4e9 with SMTP id lr16-20020a17090b4b9000b002136a84b4e9mr1016159pjb.212.1666817605813; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 13:53:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Herbert Wolverson Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 15:53:15 -0500 Message-ID: Cc: libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004cc91d05ebf637e8" Subject: Re: [LibreQoS] routing protocols and daemons X-BeenThere: libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Many ISPs need the kinds of quality shaping cake can do List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 20:53:27 -0000 --0000000000004cc91d05ebf637e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" My name is Herbert, and I'm an OSPF addict... seriously, I love OSPF. Right down to stub sites, not-so-stubby sites, and isolating IP blocks within a site into "stub" nets and ensuring they are aggregated properly. I should probably go outside more... On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 3:29 PM Dave Taht via LibreQoS < libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > OK, since I'm getting such great updates on the state of the wisp > world, far more in a few days than I've had in 10 years... and btw, no > need to leap on dr science guy research questions like mine if you > have like, towers flooding or the phone ringing off the hook.... > > What routing protocols are in use nowadays? BGP, yes, and it seems > ospf is popular? > > How about ISIS? > > I figure babel has zero traction or awareness despite being mandated > by the ietf homenet working group. > > Secondly, do you rely on BGP based on the edge router or use it in > software (frr? quagga? bird?). Using RPKI? Push FIBs anywhere? (route > 666 in particular) > > Similar question related to the IGP protocol in use, where do you rely > on it, vs all the tunnels you have, on what kinds of hardware? > > I note that robert at some point, somewhere, pointed out how fq_codel > saved his bacon when there was a major routing mishap (as there is no > congestion control in ospf), and I'd like to hear more of that story. > > BATMAN has been mentioned. There's other wireless protocols I've liked > - OLSR for example... > > Nobody knows what lies underneath many consumer wireless meshes > although it looks like 802.11s is a starting point, none, so far as I > know interoperate across brands. > > -- > This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: > > https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz > Rip Van Winkle COO, TekLibre, LLC > _______________________________________________ > LibreQoS mailing list > LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos > --0000000000004cc91d05ebf637e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My name is Herbert, and I'm an OSPF addict... seriously, I love OSPF.= =20 Right down to stub sites, not-so-stubby sites, and isolating IP blocks=20 within a site into "stub" nets and ensuring they are aggregated= =20 properly. I should probably go outside more...

= On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 3:29 PM Dave Taht via LibreQoS <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wr= ote:
OK, since I= 'm getting such great updates on the state of the wisp
world, far more in a few days than I've had in 10 years... and btw, no<= br> need to leap on dr science guy research questions like mine if you
have like, towers flooding or the phone ringing off the hook....

What routing protocols are in use nowadays? BGP, yes, and it seems
ospf is popular?

How about ISIS?

I figure babel has zero traction or awareness despite being mandated
by the ietf homenet working group.

Secondly, do you rely on BGP based on the edge router or use it in
software (frr? quagga? bird?). Using RPKI? Push FIBs anywhere? (route
666 in particular)

Similar question related to the IGP protocol in use, where do you rely
on it, vs all the tunnels you have, on what kinds of hardware?

I note that robert at some point, somewhere, pointed out how fq_codel
saved his bacon when there was a major routing mishap (as there is no
congestion control in ospf), and I'd like to hear more of that story.
BATMAN has been mentioned. There's other wireless protocols I've li= ked
- OLSR for example...

Nobody knows what lies underneath many consumer wireless meshes
although it looks like 802.11s is a starting point, none, so far as I
know interoperate across brands.

--
This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work:
https://www.= linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXt= z
Rip Van Winkle COO, TekLibre, LLC
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