From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qv1-xf2c.google.com (mail-qv1-xf2c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8453E3B2A4 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 19:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qv1-xf2c.google.com with SMTP id o7so12600787qvs.0 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:02:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1681426957; x=1684018957; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Xi2NRhAwVtqYVckENDw9Uk7K21Q/611lHj6xRe/E0BA=; b=HzkTq/dZGnwZWNF9n7RL6cg6tJJ1iXqzm1PUVTCVYY9FT7sKJ4U8q9386V+q/87JVw +4h5+cygIao1pWBeFx7DiqqjFhl156U6laaqHbdoSi8waMq/t0atB8SCCKzIQf7yzv5n QvCfRciGTp8eslhPQeLNkDEQ1Tybw+c72Skj7akkp0QV/1J5/MyfUMaYYZFZOPhQ7n2N 4ubEDdFO6hwPTaIUNMOc/G3JwUmnXFYVSOpsmQqXvVW/ercFjfLoRGJrqyb9viT/SwI8 zRlm+iIY6hdb1WoA2V3dn6be86xOxpD/QcbxkY3f+nvMCs9IoMyN4TBoQ8D0SK2RM6Jy Gaeg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1681426957; x=1684018957; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Xi2NRhAwVtqYVckENDw9Uk7K21Q/611lHj6xRe/E0BA=; b=gu5n4epjmygN4SL0vuyDSvoNOxUFbboWR4BrDzJfJDZs5FBV1o11qmHiUVi0k+MhSO 9XxtYckCrKhTyj4D9TNYJURl5bh74VzeCEBnWVWy7U2N1luXzUwW1Kgin9zuIgvNHn+3 yG/GzjHEAUFaei+0CHmlE5BFIevRjs8ELMsJuRqNQ71xaN6IN8Cc/EnZNzqNQ/XC/CyY IGm+/+7QCAqwavCRZ1qh8CmMvSPYHBtw3ufdqKBVM5n4CR0tNICfelYszWM+Bgr8b+CT 9QgpaXPCETw3Q3tzpOkVZz3dlZA+maz6844v5CjieeY8d/GRAbByT3UBPok9hHmaUc7/ 6lOQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9cb+orU3v81Pjka5zqh3LlGIwNPunjfx944qdFv+4g2tfc1HKNY 59gQHw60uS4oitn3P4XJ2J/bHOnx/21MgoKN8+5E3Lv/ X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350ZnU1dvNmSGWgA4yiushq36cGv1ep/taJZTsntTTQrl5lOJjSFXMOCRde5XRsVw+DC7PJfYv5MU+3diPmfZsfQ= X-Received: by 2002:ad4:5969:0:b0:5ef:4de6:c4f4 with SMTP id eq9-20020ad45969000000b005ef4de6c4f4mr491276qvb.15.1681426956857; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:02:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Herbert Wolverson Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:02:25 -0500 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: libreqos Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007ab43405f93fb832" Subject: Re: [LibreQoS] solar powered internet X-BeenThere: libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Many ISPs need the kinds of quality shaping cake can do List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 23:02:37 -0000 --0000000000007ab43405f93fb832 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've not built one, but there's quite the cottage industry on WispTalk. Sizing required panels, sufficient batteries, charger (with generator option), DC converters & injectors for radios (there's an annoying mix of voltage requirements, but you lose far too much doing DC to AC and back to DC to use the shipped PoE injectors). Plus remote management. Ubiquiti kinda, sorta sell a kit. On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 5:07 PM Dave Taht via LibreQoS < libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > I am not going to buy into the level of hype here: > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidtheodore/recent-activity/all/ > > But I am curious as to what extent solar power (how many watts?) can > be used nowadays for heavier duty backhaul radios, and what forms of > long term battery storage now exist? > > Most UPSes sold in stores are designed for a high load, for a short > time, where aiming for 2-3 days of backup power would be better in > this case. > > -- > AMA March 31: https://www.broadband.io/c/broadband-grant-events/dave-taht > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > _______________________________________________ > LibreQoS mailing list > LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos > --0000000000007ab43405f93fb832 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've not built one, but there's quite the cottage= industry on WispTalk. Sizing required panels, sufficient batteries, charge= r (with generator option), DC converters & injectors for radios (there&= #39;s an annoying mix of voltage requirements, but you lose far too much do= ing DC to AC and back to DC to use the shipped PoE injectors). Plus remote = management.

Ubiquiti kinda, so= rta sell a kit.

On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 5:07 PM Dave Taht via LibreQoS &= lt;libreqos@lists.bufferb= loat.net> wrote:
I am not go= ing to buy into the level of hype here:

https://www.linkedin.com/in= /davidtheodore/recent-activity/all/

But I am curious as to what extent solar power (how many watts?) can
be used nowadays for heavier duty backhaul radios, and what forms of
long term battery storage now exist?

Most UPSes sold in stores are designed for a high load, for a short
time, where aiming for 2-3 days of backup power would be better in
this case.

--
AMA March 31: https://www.broa= dband.io/c/broadband-grant-events/dave-taht
Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
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