From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pj1-x102a.google.com (mail-pj1-x102a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::102a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C96133B2A4; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 16:07:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pj1-x102a.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-26d5970cd28so925376a91.2; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 13:07:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1693512455; x=1694117255; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=FqPooWDoPmCGQt7jvf3rNezpKVteZn5JIEXNS8L6/So=; b=odAG3UGets8Cg2g9Vjc7JzzB1WHp+h8G0Dmif1v+WxxZ+gQKpMsYeS47mRE6F1X2tq omhaFUyz1riS1b4gqzfGL5/+MRyV28sqssQjeG0HFY/jeJ73Aea14gS7kyduLsq5LjHr GQmtz4Mb1JrAYsFKXmoYWzEqgusKmCDr4suBnKDDL05jftjvxQeMskZvo4xaaKpRE3pC HnCrnOY2HONa9pzUuySHn1Ud03g7fw60x3tgE+dh0cJbxMlMBxWJQqpzOBKtALz8iKQq EG0DWhIdY7EsOpM26ZVE81fXsMaWOEqLwWp6egiNgKUIZq3Z17WmvM8gX73kUaBAwpwR siow== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1693512455; x=1694117255; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=FqPooWDoPmCGQt7jvf3rNezpKVteZn5JIEXNS8L6/So=; b=UjEhz2RDZWWL85LYONzWeRwMd7UuInbMqCFEOr4PnlAe8ld/HnZC7yEbkHmLHgyziL L6sA27lk3aYT3qvnfpoDgRqswuw4DMBuyCVxV0IZ9fRDi2YRsth4M2i17TuSLWkw60bp W7da6+cjcX49ejEu61ya6ET70ZddjQiGse4kaEUWhgevobLY0VV6qYB9C7czFpoP51fB gJxL2s2xNidmYw5P7finTGVqdAGCDs4oH2E6hIX0N41l4EummkI+EIX5HH6yeh/U/vFw v+rls0y4hkDAhi/iXfHghci96QkAUc6pHqxfdpBJgApY7ER/20joNe/4wLiinv5mZ9Nc 76Sg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxmBbqHwStmTtWmt3C21fB0+VtajlYywsagV5gYp5iYbVGDy45S ZzGP1mpvF2+P1tThM3Ed7suNrPmc+EAvJiTCbfARGEO1TWI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IELllApUAarnJqzS/2yHNAT2PhMQZkPWuyfOsITQ7v/6oB0UdH3w1Chs0lalwea3sHAV28R3YIvzzp4CBch2pM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:a10d:b0:271:80f2:52bd with SMTP id s13-20020a17090aa10d00b0027180f252bdmr346420pjp.35.1693512455190; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 13:07:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2023 13:07:24 -0700 Message-ID: To: bloat , Dave Taht via Starlink , libreqos Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [LibreQoS] the characteristics of gpon networks X-BeenThere: libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Many ISPs need the kinds of quality shaping cake can do List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2023 20:07:37 -0000 Very detailed paper on how gpon works: https://www.nctatechnicalpapers.com/Paper/2022/FTF22_WLINE05_Sundaresan_389= 4/download H/T sebastian (a bit off topic for the starlink mailing list, I figure, but at least gpon=C2=B4s underlying behaviors and metrics are documented here....) --=20 Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.htm= l Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos