From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr1-x42c.google.com (mail-wr1-x42c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E2C23B29D for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2022 14:26:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wr1-x42c.google.com with SMTP id bs21so6667527wrb.4 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2022 11:26:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=5whJv2aSHxnFYWlHD5xEqQW8LtwrWG8cmwZu1TFYyMo=; b=ev8Ayo/rhnXAGU4xjA8ZPw5S+nEesNAw7IFC0So39hggABYqMIRz4y9YZLoFpUI9Y2 oViNJd6XhWAf+G3MY0mYPMgVxPV5x/sYUyGe/agTNqPn+tmOkQJAqSliUS8Ur8gjX2rM BVJDxtUiNAxu85b4KHg5vDQki1FfqWYbSIS4mwIa+GKSgfhWsVOovT5glQHXzSrDmZKJ nxLxF8CtOb5I6RdkhMHM3jFMNgjnb/t/vK4j2Gbpi9zS4zXA/2PDZOJVFqY2UE20qb5j LxiJGzYkBnF/gdq5QXTA0pQhk+9xuJsQsgd+kL4687qb9ziqcGulICvDoVqY1lDHY1Ql q/ZQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=5whJv2aSHxnFYWlHD5xEqQW8LtwrWG8cmwZu1TFYyMo=; b=bArk2dswpWPYAg2w9/dAOapqY1PEZuMWv6yGgazEMK1yaweehma1mTE+3mLL2ClcYy 6FHNk5uF4cgRIfWpU6DGskfu4Ht0OP4lYPqWcgrGB9TW3vQ0TH0FXWVpf2dm5B+DG7Ag GCSeNMzVTTPtiEfWKYWbUpW6Cf32Y4fe//x+0RyE/Ep+sg1COxY26MuZvm7NPkgRBRG4 ht8fI8e/mzBJaDPDQTzGC0uK6UvlthJ2rbW25lcbnpui7saAoR3hGpdZoQpHT8o49z2I jLegJ7Lsr3f1SWiRtCDS0lOdKciibH8Z/NTBb0n4NFKAe++dyDdkaT0slKkg4E23Uaja TsZg== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf27OVaKWzqX4UHGBBc5PIB5HGOSpc7XwpKjprOKXsT4H1bwkgrk j6JxNGWq90cucwF7Dy+sh2T0RAZbJkcsYlZ79MtiVe2fk4Q= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM6LA0tqHFcy6qQDf8d74TStriMD44SxtVqdxEtufRvt917JRGE4yWk5J/uDeKuI2f4K3ejuOBBj92PS9bmSk+U= X-Received: by 2002:adf:f242:0:b0:236:68ef:e76e with SMTP id b2-20020adff242000000b0023668efe76emr10608735wrp.482.1666722365799; Tue, 25 Oct 2022 11:26:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 11:25:53 -0700 Message-ID: To: libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [LibreQoS] adapting cake to the environment X-BeenThere: libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Many ISPs need the kinds of quality shaping cake can do List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 18:26:07 -0000 in seeing the complaints about other products bashing on snmp too hard, it occurred to me that some of the currently end-user focused work here: https://forum.openwrt.org/t/cake-w-adaptive-bandwidth/135379 Might actually also apply within an ISP to adjust the AP emulation in libreqos based on these sorts of active measurements which require no more than ping, or ntp messaging, to work. I especially like the ability to use ICMP based type 13 messages which makes it possible to calculate one way delays (OWD). There was some branch that leveraged ntp also. --=20 This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-69813666656= 07352320-FXtz Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC