From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr1-x435.google.com (mail-wr1-x435.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::435]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06CAB3B2A4 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 16:29:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wr1-x435.google.com with SMTP id g12so15606855wrs.10 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 13:29:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=lZsYYRsPdl1mfcFc5GMN3PLBJYJx7pCC9WFpIrKP8o0=; b=SLG8KtdCAFewAcdy6e8yt1LEKf3gJL6yEzxyz/j0QEKTB5naFGJ9QWz7fbgdZQCcRm a1L0WcMExtN/9vJ4/FkCF+SBfrvDo0gTkI7etYEbQ3XFyMCSdEPldsowpMqe/v51MHIr eTXfJNBSEoRPMwyhZp15bSSemzA8gjfy4zqHAO3isHzrQ8BHViL3GJbX7iEoePP9yKtL ZXPwn81LeuDFzx0poaOGmXFCWGK7jGLM4i4gX7PJaObShh96eMXJYTP7Q+fsR51TjtTk rUvAu9KfyFxFy0rUp15E4caVuefxGkh6VcrQwpl/6o8TOWrWIeVIRBM8vN0EchfItmDn KFNw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=lZsYYRsPdl1mfcFc5GMN3PLBJYJx7pCC9WFpIrKP8o0=; b=Dfznz6R3D8w+zr2VNSsxbvFDg4Ghgepsz0ljK1eD4fMU2SXNRHKbrsavhaB0iRWoaT xLqAbl4X/HZuCMkt//pzYgVO8dG+4Vazg8k6uZJGj6fS6F3BWRRyK3JbPdf7rRLWm4AH rFqTU7xkUBK+5ao0l3zeCGvhqi1ybI6pa5P+OFs1R7gYjwPbLAegZGnGb0kj4MZhUvfF ZzKvTmJ6c64pFYlR+8ZTrrTN+lkKflW9T222FWvP5OPzgCfQJZySljZr8N2t4l7Jl9gY dm1i5UNYCXddi/ppNn59mamuOmA8lpVjDMh3Ve8+LmGcpEWPJjve0tUp4ER/E9gC0Y/1 9h4w== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf1gzhlDl7n7jzEik+4POtvHorBbvr1L1s6l+oQy8PNuk++XcD0d hXWrZn9HqV3Bv+xIkDG93LQNyeXlvpILS3TeFdfCdhZ/ X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM5sGt14ih89c0yQpg8ccnZWbEDqyxCbh51IsFHq7ozZdWAwwr/yQhzSKVpqrIQmOGVjrvz11Jk/X7QyRovkvqg= X-Received: by 2002:adf:f242:0:b0:236:68ef:e76e with SMTP id b2-20020adff242000000b0023668efe76emr14424405wrp.482.1666816174190; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 13:29:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 13:29:22 -0700 Message-ID: To: libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: [LibreQoS] routing protocols and daemons X-BeenThere: libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Many ISPs need the kinds of quality shaping cake can do List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 20:29:36 -0000 OK, since I'm getting such great updates on the state of the wisp world, far more in a few days than I've had in 10 years... and btw, no need to leap on dr science guy research questions like mine if you have like, towers flooding or the phone ringing off the hook.... What routing protocols are in use nowadays? BGP, yes, and it seems ospf is popular? How about ISIS? I figure babel has zero traction or awareness despite being mandated by the ietf homenet working group. Secondly, do you rely on BGP based on the edge router or use it in software (frr? quagga? bird?). Using RPKI? Push FIBs anywhere? (route 666 in particular) Similar question related to the IGP protocol in use, where do you rely on it, vs all the tunnels you have, on what kinds of hardware? I note that robert at some point, somewhere, pointed out how fq_codel saved his bacon when there was a major routing mishap (as there is no congestion control in ospf), and I'd like to hear more of that story. BATMAN has been mentioned. There's other wireless protocols I've liked - OLSR for example... Nobody knows what lies underneath many consumer wireless meshes although it looks like 802.11s is a starting point, none, so far as I know interoperate across brands. -- This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz Rip Van Winkle COO, TekLibre, LLC