From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf1-x12b.google.com (mail-lf1-x12b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B0583CB37 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 15:10:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf1-x12b.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-513d212f818so1199953e87.2 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 12:10:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1710443420; x=1711048220; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=L8SWq7tUiM7UBTKxaWw8vI8XX7i4zm/6t7c5CrTDwOE=; b=kuvmZ24frpOdv4cchOqbdxuCy0XaAQkn6CryqY9rQ90kMryFECmtByIqIGdi1LcWPM ylaxRbo5Ypgb5915IScZ1JvysZRBsY2Hn3OEByeNRhtZd7Ymdh8H/Y5y8T0PuMSDgQ0X A0hHCLt2/sPvK52B6C+P3vyhFFAbRTX3AZm5pmF3V7uhT42k0cyqotZMul/uHsEJPXod 0StN+6Af0JKoHscSluuAVWocVAZ7rYGtSVUOwcJ4x88kcVD7llhilGNvSEaJj00/8Voe Knpbwf/rb/Ev6FR1a113CAJBcZNZDOZ8eckEIx6twYTHOmD9yiCll+1nq82Bzla+xgy2 Unbg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1710443420; x=1711048220; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=L8SWq7tUiM7UBTKxaWw8vI8XX7i4zm/6t7c5CrTDwOE=; b=CwN+38CP2nQH7jUP/lRsFg4uT20J5FNGFkp0vBDMVlJK/u+xxVoQsB6Mvf9qEK5Vtl Bs0+wGRuiFu36YraDOutwICod9Tjvf5r9RWrKVB6qkqLMer+E7DFdddbSdj+VGOeLvBh hH3Od1dfD26F9Di5bPJKSpiKz/jo5Noo4HpIxsJHxO1vBfjPboeQXH/SdM49Dy3pnKR0 gYhFBuLzx00LaMWi/iJhLny51Wmr9Di2y+jcfwc9u8v+mzG6dm26QV8Yj/gY13PCxiS4 ngwZIVZ0Mqn311Z3/q+qoO1mYDkAaNGsidPnDgWXdTddDFW2qWCTkMZOFpEFS+HMhG+T 6pVw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxiID/MbfO72u2yA2vk8Wks105hrESxUcEJ2mU6hKqJE19Le7qn 6KeeKqPsjVevLXjC8HpMZHnur0Z+xU8cWDt3XbbTW0aew+L78Yk/vgTSahWJ2KCD8N4Xm44hVpU ODafZBovEfoSqu8hRGU0heQDCcId2f0kB X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFDcrRa1iO8icLbG+2/dd0Wo8Q7rz65KuXlIoTn4HG+MCyWvoDy4kmjWPvMq6HaODwaSeZCrqJWpWcxFzjOJcM= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:59dc:0:b0:513:c53b:4697 with SMTP id x28-20020ac259dc000000b00513c53b4697mr743359lfn.66.1710443419657; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 12:10:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 15:10:06 -0400 Message-ID: To: David Lang Cc: libreqos Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [LibreQoS] [Make-wifi-fast] SCALE 21x conference this week results? X-BeenThere: libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Many ISPs need the kinds of quality shaping cake can do List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 19:10:21 -0000 I do not have a good answer anymore. My guess is blocking ipv6 tcp port 443 and leaving udp port 443 open would work due to quic choosing a lower packet size in general, and thus no pmtu needed. On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 1:38=E2=80=AFPM David Lang wrote: > > we are having some issues with ipv6, since you are a big ipv6 advocate, y= ou may > be able to help > > we get IPv6 via a hurricane electric tunnel and apparently PMTU discovery= is > misbehving. We've tried reducing the MTU a bit but still having issues. > > David Lang > > On Thu, 14 Mar 2024, David Lang via Make-wifi-fast wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 10:19:21 -0700 (PDT) > > From: David Lang via Make-wifi-fast > > Reply-To: David Lang > > To: Dave Taht > > Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink , > > Make-Wifi-fast , > > libreqos > > Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] SCALE 21x conference this week results? > > > > On Thu, 14 Mar 2024, Dave Taht via Make-wifi-fast wrote: > > > >> I am curious if anyone here is at scale this week? (it is in pasadena,= and > >> one of my favorite conferences - https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/= 21x ) > >> One of our core bufferbloat contributors (david lang) used to fq_codel= the > >> wifi there and they built custom boxes to manage the wifi in general > >> (leveraging openwrt), I am not sure how they are doing it this year. > > > > I am here, and we are still running openwrt, mostly on the wndr3800 APs > > still. stop by the noc in the conf center room 215. > > > > David Lang > > > >> I always appreciate random users testing with speedtest, > >> cloudflare,flent,irtt on the conference wifi, and would love results f= rom > >> this one especially. David published an update to this document a few = years > >> ago, but I cannot find it. This was the state of play in 2013. > >> > >> https://www.usenix.org/sites/default/files/conference/protected-files/= wireless_paper_slides.pdf > >> > >> It was the best wifi on the planet then. > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- > >> From: Google Calendar > >> Date: Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 8:50=E2=80=AFAM > >> Subject: Notification: SCALE 21x @ Thu Mar 14 9am - Sun Mar 17, 2024 5= :30pm > >> (GMT-4) (Dave Taht) > >> To: Dave Taht > >> > >> > >> SCALE 21x > >> You have been invited by unknownorganizer@calendar.google.com to atten= d an > >> event named SCALE 21x on Thursday Mar 14 =E2=8B=85 9am =E2=80=93 Sunda= y Mar 17, 2024 =E2=8B=85 > >> 5:30pm (Eastern Time - New York). > >> > >> You have an upcoming event > >> > >> SCALE 21x > >> Thursday Mar 14 =E2=8B=85 9am =E2=80=93 Sunday Mar 17, 2024 =E2=8B=85 = 5:30pm (Eastern Time - New > >> York) > >> Locationhttps://www.linkedin.com/events/scale21x7123455134910574592 > >> View map > >> > >> Organizer > >> unknownorganizer@calendar.google.com > >> Guests > >> Dave Taht - creator > >> View all event details > >> > >> > >> Invitation from Google Calendar > >> > >> You are receiving this email because you are subscribed to calendar > >> notifications. To stop receiving these emails, go to Calendar settings > >> , select this calenda= r, > >> and change "Other notifications". > >> > >> Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a respons= e to > >> the organizer, be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of > >> their own invitation status, or modify your RSVP. Learn more > >> > >> > >> > > --=20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DN0Tmvv5jJKs Epik Mellon Podcast Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos