From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x32f.google.com (mail-wm1-x32f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76AE93CB37; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 22:37:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wm1-x32f.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-40fd72f7125so21213395e9.1; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 19:37:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1708918661; x=1709523461; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=3kKBomdYZ5ywRObGSJziBoMxUtZPTnWwnif0SHmVHTY=; b=Vl43zmDno/S0ghnZdXQxw4v7qJ0ls79vOuZeewclkCb/4v492uZc5ov01n3Cu7rp0s /lt0T9aOph94/9XWXBHMJLMIMdQuP4biPWeH7dzMxD5nCeyqMVn5fKdAFCX2MwQz+R2/ F25bfpKd7mznSOiyLMw1bZVSXviKEZZSaFqgk1U0b/uNOcnO7ebp62lyT1TvY+qXvXwr 2wT4mXEdR3Wcs91uOTus2woS2hw/x2xjZMUVhXowvS+R4vgd+l3mzoRm8iatbeMtc5RT jtAWPLKtuU+vhfYX5fX6sEPwsnh5XJGE+CuArQL5O0xpgQhKSrZHSQVR3O3xnJMi58fj 0rWw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1708918661; x=1709523461; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=3kKBomdYZ5ywRObGSJziBoMxUtZPTnWwnif0SHmVHTY=; b=JvAzWfAW2amRyxqIqT+UAbzC5E4dJFOD2bMJ9fGM1HZUguDbN8clhqdg+9BSXhR1Ob 91U7jpdw+23EJ8dlsuUq12FErHVLe2ZxJ5ldbk+7xUDvi6PArEYkkpy6ohHLndOlbXjn uZFM37uTSyZq5N+0/xXtNyCC82TVFXo5YtJ1TzsvwfbvlXdTLxF1ZV831PNEH6vDVUCL zDfKXOi2YaWCcKMugV00ar12pBXXQL9EL7yue/VyV7r/VWnYA+PPUEVWKGNGAYYdehTX NclqMNrHIcFcawcyehcOS8oQLnOhDgAkexOd1lKYPZL3FlydcJGPBL4ZEpHInTsdfvZO Tpqg== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCX00HryuPmhsS1mH+rR9fSdHJ0daw6ZCZZfGuFh/XBbXjpyAwo72/3WkbnLwiiw06yXwwaqkr3aLJGnjXbBFq8Ni00Sa8q2hcKD6QQUZp4= X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yygd7pkkzoRMkOHNzl+AJVoJZgSMiZKAAADRjMNEM+lltDqsrTX oKiVsvTCOiOJ54sQ4/tJtwqHHZAQ9h6Y9Xox6t71vY/lMDGeM54hbig8bGQNQSbjt2xG7d3Kt8l MKOkGrlRwTB7dwQcBfAZAov+SkbM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEWbhuRnnT4qgNQ6jfjCF6RyzbOSuJuIVqBc7dDr6J2FAKRg1vM8Vzu4HEejphTHY16aaL2gpAhThEXZArRR9o= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:1550:b0:412:a131:f213 with SMTP id f16-20020a05600c155000b00412a131f213mr2272944wmg.1.1708918661063; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 19:37:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <56A3CE3D-DD10-4DD3-82B1-2C6BD444B8E2@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <56A3CE3D-DD10-4DD3-82B1-2C6BD444B8E2@gmail.com> From: Dave Taht Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 22:37:29 -0500 Message-ID: To: Dave Cohen Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= , libreqos , "Drew Clark (Breakfast Media)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [LibreQoS] [NNagain] metro connect this week in ft lauderdale X-BeenThere: libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Many ISPs need the kinds of quality shaping cake can do List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 03:37:42 -0000 On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 10:11=E2=80=AFPM Dave Cohen w= rote: > > Metro Connect is the money conference. There=E2=80=99s a heavy investor (= PE/analyst/etc) presence there so it=E2=80=99s always been the one show tha= t our CFO or Corp Dev people would go to. It=E2=80=99s not exactly a techni= cal audience but the panels will generally veer towards =E2=80=9Chow are we= deploying our capital=E2=80=9D, which may touch on the parts of the =E2=80= =9Cstate of the fiber market=E2=80=9D that interest you, or they may not. T= he one thing that may make it valuable is that it=E2=80=99s US-centric, unl= ike the other industry boondoggles like ITW or PTC. My 1.5 cents says not w= orthwhile but I also can=E2=80=99t speak to exactly what conversations or a= udience you might want to be busking for. You think these sort of folk might be interested in something that offers more consistent latency over fiber, at 30 cents of CAPEX, and makes for better wifi? I've got a new supply of libreqos stickers, and a freshly washed "bandwidth is a lie' t-shirt, and it is only a 2 hour drive. Hallway track might be fun. > > Dave Cohen > craetdave@gmail.com > > > On Feb 25, 2024, at 9:01=E2=80=AFPM, Dave Taht via Nnagain wrote: > > > > =EF=BB=BFI am in general leery of attending conferences that cost $2k. = Usually > > when I get attracted to one of these, I end up sitting outside, and > > busking with my guitar with a stack of bufferbloat books, and trying > > to get in on the hallway track, rather than actually getting inside > > the door. > > > > But the state of the fiber market, as it perceives itself, is on my > > mind. Is anyone going to this? I'd enjoy a day spent wandering around > > here: > > > > https://events.capacitymedia.com/event/4fb357d0-6f2e-41cd-aa19-2565077e= c3fc/websitePage:cbbfe534-365b-496f-885e-9f78b584a0f2 > > > > The last time I did the busking trick I netted 70 bucks for the day, > > almost enough to cover my hotel, and the free food was awesome. > > > > https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/trouble_in_paradise/ > > > > -- > > https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/2024_predictions/ > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos > > _______________________________________________ > > Nnagain mailing list > > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain --=20 https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/2024_predictions/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos