From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x32c.google.com (mail-wm1-x32c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86F6C3CB37 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2022 10:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wm1-x32c.google.com with SMTP id l16-20020a05600c4f1000b003c6c0d2a445so8161448wmq.4 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2022 07:50:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=3hoRdDpE7gRGY9+CmR6DoxJem+M6W0cn3PUqLZVjtjw=; b=PmyyacnTU+IgL9MJApxjpOZ/BxtfsrNNNjAQhHV1VPqS6IC5Kwcv/OHssjEX7RSB9p WABRFS2SlCksjwocEmKTjzT0r6abwRcAwN4i3wqJeI2/VwKczQDj0qBLE/unWq65plI5 xOtdeosyw6hs2tVqHuAMKIGpqy7ojU1FGS9oSDG0ii2QrZ0XCXe4X42mMQsRnqloCM1B KERmMMeFu/Bi0BqkKClxjsgZyle/QEzhBrfRfjon7FMSYEy8EJQuOUNJ3e2R6/KwUjAN PBpp/eTHM+m4tWuEm9hqY5vmgL1eUXEfLt0YroVZuB6aDLYpoLvs448su9wpEpKhcAsJ SgqQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=3hoRdDpE7gRGY9+CmR6DoxJem+M6W0cn3PUqLZVjtjw=; b=L06tqdIzJGm5JLBL+KvK/YygfLL5JwTuvqreuc4xfkSXUQa3c2hHre7q+6zpwjL/q9 EFZxDzMOCY+VD6C07Jg2vaJx1Y9pgH8W4oe8s0Rmr0MuptDku+PcPI96A89VJ0sJsC3r yi7Vdy7KcvETBoYSxbWnef6NKWc5QIK60rGA4S9CfGKLQUcdOBMdcSZy76/ypTV0yog9 yvbsiDYFyrzqZKSUhojIdfudSfN2ybReOURdoLs8rUgLBThdvQXxveahhvYyRY6mM7eo DsL1t77f6F6b6oZEythD4CFEIa3YZPbVzBpgOAeArlKBQvW6MyBYLWYZEqZO4lWzY7iK sNdQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf2CXOunZ+XLLXn853+7yfr7oOCmhmPz4dtzisrpGt4X6a/7U75b M8/+ANPoKAPlkXDDrG144pF14YakTQCyDqvF9vgrBKg3 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM7nYkde3nWe1SQTRnXou3baJRTSW2hGB6iqeFSEFkMf6fgut2ETXpUz60ck9daCAJNSBGuaawKmt2oQVYnNqc8= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:1906:b0:3c6:f83e:d15f with SMTP id j6-20020a05600c190600b003c6f83ed15fmr18525143wmq.205.1667227822360; Mon, 31 Oct 2022 07:50:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 07:50:10 -0700 Message-ID: To: Herbert Wolverson , Andrew McGregor Cc: libreqos Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [LibreQoS] metaverse-ready metrics X-BeenThere: libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Many ISPs need the kinds of quality shaping cake can do List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 14:50:23 -0000 Andrew?, I can't remember or find the name of that algebra and distribution you were so hot on 5? 8? years ago, that influenced bbr. On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 7:47 AM Dave Taht wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 7:21 PM Dave Taht wrote: > > > > How about the idea of "metaverse-ready" metrics, with one table that is= preseem-like and another that's > > aquamarine =3D < 3.2ms - this is as low as it is possible to measure, as > tcp timestamps are in ms. > blue =3D < 8ms > green =3D < 20ms > yellow =3D < 50ms > orange =3D < 70ms > red =3D > 70ms > mordor-red > 120ms > > is there a truly ugly tone of red, blackish, ugly as sin? (mordor-red) > > This above is almost but not quite, a : > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven-number_summary > > > > > > > -- > This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: > https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-698136666= 5607352320-FXtz > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC --=20 This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-69813666656= 07352320-FXtz Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC