From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr1-x433.google.com (mail-wr1-x433.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::433]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CF353B29E for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2022 23:34:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wr1-x433.google.com with SMTP id v1so4938748wrt.11 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2022 20:34:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=aVViQvVR3QecTFq51vlPCXtwGEuNoF/m9f5k7dk3Tds=; b=gLgGMXWtfzb3JffWRfUQvQwvwi0Ae/7C3dS8ZQ94ZIbpI1AP0ShrK0R0kw3RgW2xJc ZJ2vqZSQkOUrnJm+w48LiX0WCi5YGCNntAW9ZyU0Uu6+YRHUJEAe8atkAFczfMYQLEax 5pqq1soyHH6MVy92txzOBeMuOFBLo8hYiJuO+yru1/8HVXHdfgUQspnFUIpa8Kcch+kb NaKIjGfALSm2iUCSafUW/NcjK0K0IBnNkiiYrt3GeUzzC6MPLVe7DLHWQ6mFExA9uuwG /BWC5c/MjzdVY5BaeDlHjvDKlJy3h6PEXxk6EV7bB8jM0t6GJRV59Fxo16uwbXHpcPr8 ceWw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=aVViQvVR3QecTFq51vlPCXtwGEuNoF/m9f5k7dk3Tds=; b=ceYxxH/5bcy/Th7DoJXx6IPuqtwb7jj8TY8K9Q5/Fa4K9SkSIMP7mexATiisHtiPhl cn3rV7fc1JovnErUApdai8eGPOcbC8zYe2Rz+EZT22375CRWq6Nx/g7lTQ6qxEhFL8E8 ByEi+1sNEpkr4/iEBECP6hpWA5OIXZFX0snhHM/1NJWEh6X2KhR3ec0mxKykI/1kmebe VGPWWvX6QcIp6Xm5bRClhlO6vIegdL1jVhO1iJQqD/GHAT5dnlujJ/4UPWEnel4r/rY+ UlkJuoPdyjglS89yddBm3MquQ4SG1FBCQtnCzetqtkZk9rQNbm0riSwxOWfynzBlNYJ7 fkWA== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pn1ch6uNKFqavplPd3dlbELtYGH/fnzdwIWsFRWav6Xlo/q2t6s 6t2Y67lbV5aiNQSg7csFuTgoo+76IV0mfeOXHOc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf72+AbSDgu7MswUojCtiPgbp+XiJVaiHyzK4RXYF8ODtuH2ZhoHhPM7sHVRrqzIeXxtoo3p+46Qw5rQ5uehV4M= X-Received: by 2002:adf:dfc9:0:b0:236:71bc:928c with SMTP id q9-20020adfdfc9000000b0023671bc928cmr141176wrn.482.1668141293031; Thu, 10 Nov 2022 20:34:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2022 20:34:35 -0800 Message-ID: To: Hayden Simon Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Robert_Chac=C3=B3n?= , "LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [LibreQoS] Mailing Lists / Github X-BeenThere: libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Many ISPs need the kinds of quality shaping cake can do List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 04:34:54 -0000 https://element.io/blog/introducing-native-matrix-voip-with-element-call/ 8 ways, no SFU: https://github.com/vector-im/element-call On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 7:41 PM Dave Taht wrote: > > Tee-hee. I'd almost got as far as creating a poll for options here before= robert setup a matrix instance. > > Would love it if y'all tried it out - notably group chat/videoconferencin= g (I will then be tempted to fix their videoconferencing > algorithms - they using pion? gcc? what?) Pion landed all the good buffer= bloat-fighting stuff 6 months back... > > I will follow the will of the majority here, but with a pretty competent = looking emacs implementation ( ttps://github.com/alphapapa/ement.el) and ir= c support, I lean matrix. > > And I'm going to bed. I expect by tomorrow y'all will have settled on the= right thing. > > --=20 This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-69813666656= 07352320-FXtz Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC