From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yw1-x112a.google.com (mail-yw1-x112a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::112a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3667F3B29D for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 11:55:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-yw1-x112a.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-367cd2807f2so112355977b3.1 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 08:55:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=yHxicGl4jksPsId7xAvqLu81XuZlRyBwx0o0h23PoNM=; b=YxoJcpz4dRh/5ttioob7VpNvnY3096nDzwMGprsABV6zY3k9yhiXWKHQvPGh+S6kyU qMkQtaJsBhDfG3/+abKVVJRmXjOP8weI0pCm4SBWQEcffgSdeFa2hcMh3xzOqeA4TXth caJeLhDwAZS9dk0wVXRbGUQF+npHMsqIcgRTmQ5sRuWusm1xqzO+jO+bXomYr1Hii6rt R5tJHeSnni1EROOyChynI0QV1OZhQNJKjAL+7JPpdoDD+fBpKPm8hHwmdidwUzHI46a2 mkaFZzBAznjyf+D+MfwirRhSWs4xzH0uewsV3lM7UZepL2XHyPTzZ+PRkJqkzZqpNEfa e0Fw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=yHxicGl4jksPsId7xAvqLu81XuZlRyBwx0o0h23PoNM=; b=W8/3ElpuuvvXsyugrcotzJyU015XZmYwK4xe0+yLOMO4SiSUsoqVlaB+6Bl2+BtJYm vKHqAba9i7i5o7o/BQLNJPy7DvyO8HdY/RfJAAZoKafnDY/LnEvnPSHQZCW8FJdUueGk k2kJKNc4R1psY/UKZbKYLPnaKk0KdYFbNySH2seYy3bBAOOqGZw3m5rngSEnp0Nrq3x/ GI+VK+RsQ/ux9cuRdHi2aw54/Rku6mRLd46V56551g5YTTdM1HvSpQC72OV4hyAuzhdc pgc1q/txBspQbC5mKJuNxp2H3BqXgCNn8Y5ugnCY0hZGiEA46ppg6uL4Zxkhz+Omwa9q cKIA== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pkj8MI2WPr2NriptyR8k4y/Yl/LRgSlr6UBB64unpBWmeCqJ5Xu lnpYgcM0+y79KMCC3J0hczYrn07WBjEKwISfm+I= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf4LtnZ9wwMIUrn/NjD4SfD3soJwTt9EFfIFNeBJxWvomWyTjsTGP33HFGuqm2jtNa2DZ4F8p3AnXYynm/WwmwY= X-Received: by 2002:a0d:d906:0:b0:370:4ee0:d005 with SMTP id b6-20020a0dd906000000b003704ee0d005mr13819343ywe.172.1668444941372; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 08:55:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: dan Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 09:55:30 -0700 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: libreqos Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000ed2f505ed711c0c" Subject: Re: [LibreQoS] I like we don't reload anymore X-BeenThere: libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Many ISPs need the kinds of quality shaping cake can do List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 16:55:42 -0000 --0000000000000ed2f505ed711c0c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable agreed. His point about google maps is especially painful when most mapping products are somehow based around a google maps base layers. Can drag modem machines down for no good reason. I also run an MSP and do a lot of consulting work on various LOB kits. I always push users to test workflow speed. If there are slow dialog boxes I go back to the vendor and say this isn't good enough. These slowdowns are the equivalent of bad latency from a user experience. On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 6:51 PM Dave Taht via LibreQoS < libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > reminds me of the joy of this: > > https://craigmod.com/essays/fast_software/ > > -- > This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: > > https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-698136666= 5607352320-FXtz > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > _______________________________________________ > LibreQoS mailing list > LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos > --0000000000000ed2f505ed711c0c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
agreed.=C2=A0 His point about google maps is especially pa= inful when most mapping products are somehow based around a google maps bas= e layers.=C2=A0 Can drag modem=C2=A0machines down for no good reason.
I also run an MSP and do a lot of consulting work on various LOB kits.=C2= =A0 I always push users to test workflow speed.=C2=A0 If there are slow dia= log boxes I go back to the vendor and say this isn't good enough.=C2=A0= =C2=A0

These slowdowns are the equivalent of bad latency from a user= experience.

On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 6:51 PM Dave Taht via LibreQoS <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.ne= t> wrote:
reminds me of the joy of this:

https://craigmod.com/essays/fast_software/

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This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work:
https://www.= linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXt= z
Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
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