From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yb1-xb2e.google.com (mail-yb1-xb2e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BC123B29D for ; Thu, 11 May 2023 15:50:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-yb1-xb2e.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-ba6f4365d73so298203276.1 for ; Thu, 11 May 2023 12:50:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1683834615; x=1686426615; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=OzWpJUWl3wY2WNOH/6GSAyrwk5bCipwrut2VTPxex80=; b=GZXLqsVeqCigk5JZ1B15Fx0sjw3Yd9rDA75U5KM8/XUDvKdzgONhAyV3iYazRJPvBn nQlSq0Xe4x0tsHT6l5DXBX0KF8lNGsyhTkCGi5Uzv+xFIfYh9YV0FdKIjh/ysIfj3mXq P4wEik8aqvWtWIrw8ZnZQDmX3JhY6OYhxm3FGB/zDH3mqGLaOq0b3gDLI16ntwO8ypB/ 238KLGoYct9REufqHWk/SUfU1Uf7W4rzL3LW+JzrSTkkVsk+vaVVF6IsViWLKnMtYoSV rnwEbT2QOTHqwVMelcIz7h/gC0wWf45ZNID6pinVGXOmdB8cafukBhM3J919r8iWA8xV GvNA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1683834615; x=1686426615; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=OzWpJUWl3wY2WNOH/6GSAyrwk5bCipwrut2VTPxex80=; b=BdFJwvLH27fG3EtI2PwwrOqfgJ1x6EpkEYewVupKgHP03+bX0yb5TSP8lZiXd6LMqK hxRXkr/ho6u4o6zSlxcheGDF2kpUnmAK+IQLY21ytOSx+MbKf1ggrTSnEjWBVJoz08ZA BW/iYLRYUFKqw+zZJq4LqtUK4kUfuYujfg+Vm6AWXg10ZjdO48ByhW2ntDJ1i8UqQwiN As9If4otqNFciV8rUZWaon198j/dkXxY+ePNPSQG5sTf2O///IkjALHdGTRNJZRUQcfk tgmXVNtV8AvK2Z515GPPQ/GDBoLRqQNnJAXXBamuTxKsKo5ByW3d2EPtybLXbH0khgtG L9uQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDxheahkaM11WG9+qz0/SdLvpPmQSXKEnf1wq+b38KmB4wTJomli eAk2Hwx1uZb9jfxcgUUyROEwQ+cnZN623Gwz2lOP/GcVBN4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ7DDfGlw/JFQTDOSzhEZfnDE9FYttUBc7sXRV14IeIC3CJX3JmaHlWGFULSPKExP93Mu3oR/Ocu+JT1VSya7oA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:1887:b0:b9a:5fd8:770b with SMTP id cj7-20020a056902188700b00b9a5fd8770bmr28411733ybb.52.1683834615275; Thu, 11 May 2023 12:50:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <699f0e1d-e6ae-2489-b307-5676c6f5059e@thexlab.org> In-Reply-To: From: dan Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 13:50:04 -0600 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: libreqos Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001aa41005fb704c40" Subject: Re: [LibreQoS] Fwd: Here's how the Broadband Fabric should be built. X-BeenThere: libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Many ISPs need the kinds of quality shaping cake can do List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 19:50:16 -0000 --0000000000001aa41005fb704c40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm not in that area, but just wanted to comment on the name being too easily confused with everyone's most hated web browser... On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 8:47=E2=80=AFAM Dave Taht via LibreQoS < libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Sascha Meinrath > Date: Wed, May 10, 2023 at 7:30=E2=80=AFAM > Subject: Here's how the Broadband Fabric should be built. > To: National Broadband Mapping Coalition > > > Hi Everyone, > > A national team of GIS experts have been collaborating on an open source, > address-level, free broadband availability map -- the PA beta is now live > here: > > https://internetxplorer.org > > *** > > As you will quickly see, the map has information down to the address leve= l > -- > and it enables easy zooming to whichever level you're interested in > (unlike the > FCC's map). *AND* we have also pointed out households that *should* be in > the > Fabric but are not (along with a bunch of highway mile markers that will > need to > be cleaned out -- an artifact of pulling locations from E911 databases). > Most of > the Turquoise dots represent challenges that should have been made -- and > there > are areas in North Central and SW PA where there are thousands upon > thousands of > households currently missing from the Fabric data. > > This map is freely and publicly available for non-commercial use, and it'= s > built > with open source code -- so we'd welcome both collaborators, re-use by > more > states, inquiries from devs who want to help, as well as your feedback > (there's > a handy "reach out" link at the top of the map that'll e-mail the team). > > The dev team is particularly keen to accelerate additional features (e.g.= , > drawing an arbitrary polygon and having it compute # of households, # & % > unserved, # & % underserved; and mash-ups with demographic data from the > 2020 > census [which would enable the first-ever empirical look at de facto > digital > redlining]). > > Long story short, this was pulled together by an independent team because > the > country and state continues to misappropriate funding for disastrously > unusable > broadband maps. We wanted to back up our critique by demonstrating what i= s > possible. This particular map is purpose-built to show eligible areas for > the PA > Capital Project Fund RFP (coming out today), but it serves as an exemplar > showing how feasible building an free and open, accessible, cheaper, and > more > usable map actually is. > > I hope folks like it. > > Best, > > --Sascha > > -- > Sascha Meinrath > Director, X-Lab > Palmer Chair in Telecommunications > Penn State University > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "National Broadband Mapping Coalition" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to BBCoalition+unsubscribe@marconisociety.org. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/marconisociety.org/d/msgid/BBCoalition/699f0e= 1d-e6ae-2489-b307-5676c6f5059e%40thexlab.org > . > > > -- > Podcast: > https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7058793910227111937/ > Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos > _______________________________________________ > LibreQoS mailing list > LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos > --0000000000001aa41005fb704c40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm not in that area, but just wanted to comment on th= e name being too easily confused with everyone's most hated web browser= ...

On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 8:47=E2=80=AFAM Dave Taht via LibreQoS <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net= > wrote:
=


---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Sascha Meinrath <sascha@th= exlab.org>
Date: Wed, May 10, 2023 at 7:30=E2=80=AFAM
S= ubject: Here's how the Broadband Fabric should be built.
To: Nationa= l Broadband Mapping Coalition <bbcoalition@marconisociety.org>
=

Hi Everyone,

A national team of GIS experts have been collaborating on an open source, <= br> address-level, free broadband availability map -- the PA beta is now live h= ere:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://internetxplorer.org

***

As you will quickly see, the map has information down to the address level = --
and it enables easy zooming to whichever level you're interested in (un= like the
FCC's map). *AND* we have also pointed out households that *should* be = in the
Fabric but are not (along with a bunch of highway mile markers that will ne= ed to
be cleaned out -- an artifact of pulling locations from E911 databases). Mo= st of
the Turquoise dots represent challenges that should have been made -- and t= here
are areas in North Central and SW PA where there are thousands upon thousan= ds of
households currently missing from the Fabric data.

This map is freely and publicly available for non-commercial use, and it= 9;s built
with open source code -- so we'd welcome both collaborators, re-use by = more
states, inquiries from devs who want to help, as well as your feedback (the= re's
a handy "reach out" link at the top of the map that'll e-mail= the team).

The dev team is particularly keen to accelerate additional features (e.g., =
drawing an arbitrary polygon and having it compute # of households, # &= %
unserved, # & % underserved; and mash-ups with demographic data from th= e 2020
census [which would enable the first-ever empirical look at de facto digita= l
redlining]).

Long story short, this was pulled together by an independent team because t= he
country and state continues to misappropriate funding for disastrously unus= able
broadband maps. We wanted to back up our critique by demonstrating what is =
possible. This particular map is purpose-built to show eligible areas for t= he PA
Capital Project Fund RFP (coming out today), but it serves as an exemplar <= br> showing how feasible building an free and open, accessible, cheaper, and mo= re
usable map actually is.

I hope folks like it.

Best,

--Sascha

--
Sascha Meinrath
Director, X-Lab
Palmer Chair in Telecommunications
Penn State University

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