we also have a bunch of 25/5. It would be nice to get some more detailed numbers from ookla tests. We also have a lot of Eero units out there, so watching for the eero speed test would also be great. On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 10:31 AM Herbert Wolverson via LibreQoS < libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > sniff DNS for those speed test lookups and trigger a packet capture for > x duration? > > That's a good idea (I think there's a service somewhere for finding > speedtest > servers?). We're discussing testing the ack-filter feature right now, and > something > similar would work well for that. (We have a bunch of 25/5 and similarly > asymmetric > connections, in theory it'll help...) > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 10:31 AM dan via LibreQoS < > libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > >> sniff DNS for those speed test lookups and trigger a packet capture for x >> duration? >> >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 9:27 AM Dave Taht wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 8:20 AM dan wrote: >>> > >>> > Dave, I think that 'bouncing' is more CPU time in the browser. I >>> don't think it's indicative over what's actually happening. >>> >>> A simultaneous packet capture and wireshark plot of the RTTs would >>> also be helpful. >>> >>> > >>> > On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 9:09 AM Dave Taht via LibreQoS < >>> libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 8:02 AM Robert Chacón via LibreQoS >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > I can run an Ookla test in the middle of the night with LibreQoS >>> off for a bit. >>> >> >>> >> Groovy. >>> >> >>> >> > From what I recall - without Libre we see download bloat of 300ms >>> or so. With Libre, it's gone. On waveform we see 0ms added bloat each >>> direction for most clients. >>> >> >>> >> The numbers report by speedtest bounce around a lot, and they tend to >>> >> pick a lower number as a final result than I'd >>> >> like. If there's a way to capture a movie of it... >>> >> > >>> >> > And I like the "monitor only" mode idea. >>> >> > Perhaps we could create the HTB tree, but just not attach the CAKE >>> qdisc? >>> >> > Technically even HTB could reduce latency by itself on overloaded >>> APs , so it wouldn't be true passive monitoring, but it would allow us to >>> compare the before/after of CAKE while still having qdiscs we can point >>> cpumap-pping to. >>> >> > >>> >> > Alternatively, maybe we could use eBPF PPing just for this passive >>> monitoring period? >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 8:02 AM Herbert Wolverson via LibreQoS < >>> libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Are you looking for a shaped result? That'll show "whatever >>> bandwidth >>> >> >> is left on the sector" without Libre, and around the customer's >>> paid-for >>> >> >> target with Libre (hopefully!). >>> >> >> >>> >> >> One thing Preseem does well is that their onboarding process >>> includes >>> >> >> "leave it in monitoring-only mode" for a week, gathering data >>> before you >>> >> >> pull the switch (although most ISPs I've talked to just pull the >>> switch...) >>> >> >> It's quite enlightening to see a before/after, even with only >>> FQ_CODEL >>> >> >> as the shaper. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> We could probably do something similar with a "monitor only" mode >>> that >>> >> >> doesn't enable any queues (is there a TC equivalent to "dummy" on >>> >> >> FreeBSD?). >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 8:52 AM Dave Taht via LibreQoS < >>> libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> I am curious if anyone here has speedtest results with libreqos >>> on and >>> >> >>> off, and can send a screen shot? >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> -- >>> >> >>> This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: >>> >> >>> >>> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz >>> >> >>> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >>> LibreQoS mailing list >>> >> >>> LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> >> >>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos >>> >> >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >> LibreQoS mailing list >>> >> >> LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> >> >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Robert Chacón >>> >> > CEO | JackRabbit Wireless LLC >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > LibreQoS mailing list >>> >> > LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> >> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: >>> >> >>> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz >>> >> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> LibreQoS mailing list >>> >> LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: >>> >>> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz >>> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> LibreQoS mailing list >> LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos >> > _______________________________________________ > LibreQoS mailing list > LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos >