Dave, I think that 'bouncing' is more CPU time in the browser.  I don't
think it's indicative over what's actually happening.


On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 9:09 AM Dave Taht via LibreQoS <
libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 8:02 AM Robert Chacón via LibreQoS
> <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >
> > I can run an Ookla test in the middle of the night with LibreQoS off for
> a bit.
>
> Groovy.
>
> > From what I recall - without Libre we see download bloat of 300ms or so.
> With Libre, it's gone. On waveform we see 0ms added bloat each direction
> for most clients.
>
> The numbers report by speedtest bounce around a lot, and they tend to
> pick a lower number as a final result than I'd
> like. If there's a way to capture a movie of it...
> >
> > And I like the "monitor only" mode idea.
> > Perhaps we could create the HTB tree, but just not attach the CAKE qdisc?
> > Technically even HTB could reduce latency by itself on overloaded APs ,
> so it wouldn't be true passive monitoring, but it would allow us to compare
> the before/after of CAKE while still having qdiscs we can point
> cpumap-pping to.
> >
> > Alternatively, maybe we could use eBPF PPing just for this passive
> monitoring period?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 8:02 AM Herbert Wolverson via LibreQoS <
> libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Are you looking for a shaped result? That'll show "whatever bandwidth
> >> is left on the sector" without Libre, and around the customer's paid-for
> >> target with Libre (hopefully!).
> >>
> >> One thing Preseem does well is that their onboarding process includes
> >> "leave it in monitoring-only mode" for a week, gathering data before you
> >> pull the switch (although most ISPs I've talked to just pull the
> switch...)
> >> It's quite enlightening to see a before/after, even with only FQ_CODEL
> >> as the shaper.
> >>
> >> We could probably do something similar with a "monitor only" mode that
> >> doesn't enable any queues (is there a TC equivalent to "dummy" on
> >> FreeBSD?).
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 8:52 AM Dave Taht via LibreQoS <
> libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I am curious if anyone here has speedtest results with libreqos on and
> >>> off, and can send a screen shot?
> >>>
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