From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yw1-x1136.google.com (mail-yw1-x1136.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD39F3CB37 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 13:45:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-yw1-x1136.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-60a0599f631so11295407b3.2 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 10:45:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1710438309; x=1711043109; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ZJn0FE3QYRkknCmrfv2Hy9W/V+Mtakody0EI7DaQN+k=; b=jZn7gwpIktJXHIuiqPliXPHngqEi+W9WN6sAlVMycYmRuEOMmli72R2y0UtKvRbUZA nKNVCEkLJgbxlAEI0Z9/qjGeXtIj6vjZrt/ncwku27colfwLmFQjlG/SM187nd4N/xAe USBfzfyAOFOsWB/eQVe9nNpJttEae8u3lMX/PATwEHpVJiD+Xqv8JhCFMh9jzy1Xs6T8 wrKDmWGz7WZBPQKenvyPZ1flhmEJMhaOW91CUAlpgZuXQqlBILu1A/OCnDHmfafIIuPc pEn/Ilpuw//AAWN2w5TKQABIIp0siQUwPgD+ae/86SHnVevVy5GhbusFPROTxTTkCZWT xMmQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1710438309; x=1711043109; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=ZJn0FE3QYRkknCmrfv2Hy9W/V+Mtakody0EI7DaQN+k=; b=R26GGxhfwgHuKc04a26O087uYH+Fw2zafLNfegdTDZjpn+rJPXWuyiDDWL/vguThce fmC2J/VsTJ3av0UqiXF52bZtqiO62VchVIHBkEXswByvYRrf2QQbop9cF054WedQj3il AXwtMyNqgjgB9LSlsNz4aoIQUcMr18U9GvtjqitHPr3mDPc7xvPEM5NEbRTCKP4vvf7L 02DZBC2FQdsIBtliEO0wF1O+4Q6GJ6iPFRwyCCp4otWcquKmdnyCwwEfO0ySBHpjLw+Q 5MAay7SwfvHW2IFw4Z7FAe3AbMdFMPiqQ8+bzh7CchEG3XX+/2q7Ku3NPhr5Yf57tY28 IDeg== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCUpWl0ne5dapZS6arFUOyRutR2qm3HtRaaBzm+s+Rbj41Dz3jDqjxUlbQqWcOyuXggY45/e5sRzGX+TayAJ3xLYVWT99vT8Lpzoqqp41pc= X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyKwZZZvKAimotru5sGhi9zTiiriGSyWvsPMu+ohLLtq/hkRsgM 1tFX72XC2GRaGRSB/Vj9SOtTAYVCUax+2aV8au5CFzdJwSTCfK5f5HP0dQlZe3D69Ad75jnsff3 dqgUsdzdyZQL+275fm+qYYuijMKJzYzLwhQY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE59V7iFfmskVZU3PfOtORykbwMBTqvTozoWw/oUGQrOoO9Qlv1ydSM+o5SH4/uvSd27tdro/d0bY+1umAC8xs= X-Received: by 2002:a81:9c53:0:b0:60a:a73:9516 with SMTP id n19-20020a819c53000000b0060a0a739516mr2170343ywa.47.1710438308957; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 10:45:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: dan Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 11:44:57 -0600 Message-ID: To: David Lang Cc: Dave Taht , libreqos Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d0d6ab0613a2735d" Subject: Re: [LibreQoS] [Make-wifi-fast] SCALE 21x conference this week results? X-BeenThere: libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Many ISPs need the kinds of quality shaping cake can do List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 17:45:09 -0000 --000000000000d0d6ab0613a2735d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If MTU discovery fails it's usually because a device is trying to seamlessly fragment. Set do not fragment on your device nearest the customer and that should solve it. On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 11:38=E2=80=AFAM David Lang via LibreQoS < libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > we are having some issues with ipv6, since you are a big ipv6 advocate, > you may > be able to help > > we get IPv6 via a hurricane electric tunnel and apparently PMTU discovery > is > misbehving. We've tried reducing the MTU a bit but still having issues. > > David Lang > > On Thu, 14 Mar 2024, David Lang via Make-wifi-fast wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 10:19:21 -0700 (PDT) > > From: David Lang via Make-wifi-fast < > make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net> > > Reply-To: David Lang > > To: Dave Taht > > Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink , > > Make-Wifi-fast , > > libreqos > > Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] SCALE 21x conference this week results? > > > > On Thu, 14 Mar 2024, Dave Taht via Make-wifi-fast wrote: > > > >> I am curious if anyone here is at scale this week? (it is in pasadena, > and > >> one of my favorite conferences - > https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/21x ) > >> One of our core bufferbloat contributors (david lang) used to fq_codel > the > >> wifi there and they built custom boxes to manage the wifi in general > >> (leveraging openwrt), I am not sure how they are doing it this year. > > > > I am here, and we are still running openwrt, mostly on the wndr3800 APs > > still. stop by the noc in the conf center room 215. > > > > David Lang > > > >> I always appreciate random users testing with speedtest, > >> cloudflare,flent,irtt on the conference wifi, and would love results > from > >> this one especially. David published an update to this document a few > years > >> ago, but I cannot find it. This was the state of play in 2013. > >> > >> > https://www.usenix.org/sites/default/files/conference/protected-files/wir= eless_paper_slides.pdf > >> > >> It was the best wifi on the planet then. > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- > >> From: Google Calendar > >> Date: Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 8:50=E2=80=AFAM > >> Subject: Notification: SCALE 21x @ Thu Mar 14 9am - Sun Mar 17, 2024 > 5:30pm > >> (GMT-4) (Dave Taht) > >> To: Dave Taht > >> > >> > >> SCALE 21x > >> You have been invited by unknownorganizer@calendar.google.com to > attend an > >> event named SCALE 21x on Thursday Mar 14 =E2=8B=85 9am =E2=80=93 Sunda= y Mar 17, 2024 =E2=8B=85 > >> 5:30pm (Eastern Time - New York). > >> > >> You have an upcoming event > >> > >> SCALE 21x > >> Thursday Mar 14 =E2=8B=85 9am =E2=80=93 Sunday Mar 17, 2024 =E2=8B=85 = 5:30pm (Eastern Time - New > >> York) > >> Locationhttps://www.linkedin.com/events/scale21x7123455134910574592 > >> View map > >> < > https://www.google.com/url?q=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fevents%2F= scale21x7123455134910574592&sa=3DD&source=3Dcalendar&usd=3D2&usg=3DAOvVaw3X= 1UEtve0I57MTQPZbLnZG > > > >> Organizer > >> unknownorganizer@calendar.google.com > >> Guests > >> Dave Taht - creator > >> View all event details > >> < > https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=3DVIEW&eid=3DXzZ0bG5hcX= JsZTVwNmNwYjRkaG1qNHBocGVobW02b3BnNjlwbW1xcmtkZGlqMGQxcDY5b200ZTMzZWNyNjhwc= jZkaGhta2NyZ2M1aDZvcHBpZWNxNmtkYjFlNHA2MmNwcDZoajc0cXBqZTFoNmUgZGF2ZS50YWh0= QG0&tok=3DMzYjdW5rbm93bm9yZ2FuaXplckBjYWxlbmRhci5nb29nbGUuY29tNGI5YTMyMDY3N= GRiMDIzNTk2Mzk2ZGYyN2ZjY2U1ZWIxN2E4MjEwNA&ctz=3DAmerica%2FNew_York&hl=3Den&= es=3D1 > > > >> > >> Invitation from Google Calendar > >> > >> You are receiving this email because you are subscribed to calendar > >> notifications. To stop receiving these emails, go to Calendar settings > >> , select this > calendar, > >> and change "Other notifications". > >> > >> Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a respons= e > to > >> the organizer, be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of > >> their own invitation status, or modify your RSVP. Learn more > >> > >> > >> > >_______________________________________________ > LibreQoS mailing list > LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos > --000000000000d0d6ab0613a2735d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If MTU discovery fails it's usually because a device i= s trying to seamlessly fragment.=C2=A0 Set do not fragment on your device n= earest the customer and that should solve it.

On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 11:38= =E2=80=AFAM David Lang via LibreQoS <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
we are having some issues with= ipv6, since you are a big ipv6 advocate, you may
be able to help

we get IPv6 via a hurricane electric tunnel and apparently PMTU discovery i= s
misbehving. We've tried reducing the MTU a bit but still having issues.=

David Lang

On Thu, 14 Mar 2024, David Lang via Make-wifi-fast wrote:

> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 10:19:21 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David Lang via Make-wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloa= t.net>
> Reply-To: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
> To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
> Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.= net>,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0libreqos <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] SCALE 21x conference this week results?<= br> >
> On Thu, 14 Mar 2024, Dave Taht via Make-wifi-fast wrote:
>
>> I am curious if anyone here is at scale this week? (it is in pasad= ena, and
>> one of my favorite conferences - https://www.socall= inuxexpo.org/scale/21x )
>> One of our core bufferbloat contributors (david lang) used to fq_c= odel the
>> wifi there and they built custom boxes to manage the wifi in gener= al
>> (leveraging openwrt), I am not sure how they are doing it this yea= r.
>
> I am here, and we are still running openwrt, mostly on the wndr3800 AP= s
> still. stop by the noc in the conf center room 215.
>
> David Lang
>
>> I always appreciate random users testing with speedtest,
>> cloudflare,flent,irtt on the conference wifi, and would love resul= ts from
>> this one especially. David published an update to this document a = few years
>> ago, but I cannot find it. This was the state of play in 2013.
>>
>> https://www.usenix.org/sites/default/files/conference/protected-files/w= ireless_paper_slides.pdf
>>
>> It was the best wifi on the planet then.
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: Google Calendar <calendar-notification@google.com>
>> Date: Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 8:50=E2=80=AFAM
>> Subject: Notification: SCALE 21x @ Thu Mar 14 9am - Sun Mar 17, 20= 24 5:30pm
>> (GMT-4) (Dave Taht)
>> To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> SCALE 21x
>> You have been invited by unknownorganizer@calendar.google.com t= o attend an
>> event named SCALE 21x on Thursday Mar 14 =E2=8B=85 9am =E2=80=93 S= unday Mar 17, 2024 =E2=8B=85
>> 5:30pm (Eastern Time - New York).
>>
>> You have an upcoming event
>>
>> SCALE 21x
>> Thursday Mar 14 =E2=8B=85 9am =E2=80=93 Sunday Mar 17, 2024 =E2=8B= =85 5:30pm (Eastern Time - New
>> York)
>> Locationhttps://www.linkedin.com/= events/scale21x7123455134910574592
>> View map
>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.link= edin.com%2Fevents%2Fscale21x7123455134910574592&sa=3DD&source=3Dcal= endar&usd=3D2&usg=3DAOvVaw3X1UEtve0I57MTQPZbLnZG>
>> Organizer
>> unknownorganizer@calendar.google.com
>> Guests
>> Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> - creator
>> View all event details
>> <https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=3DVIEW&= eid=3DXzZ0bG5hcXJsZTVwNmNwYjRkaG1qNHBocGVobW02b3BnNjlwbW1xcmtkZGlqMGQxcDY5b= 200ZTMzZWNyNjhwcjZkaGhta2NyZ2M1aDZvcHBpZWNxNmtkYjFlNHA2MmNwcDZoajc0cXBqZTFo= NmUgZGF2ZS50YWh0QG0&tok=3DMzYjdW5rbm93bm9yZ2FuaXplckBjYWxlbmRhci5nb29nb= GUuY29tNGI5YTMyMDY3NGRiMDIzNTk2Mzk2ZGYyN2ZjY2U1ZWIxN2E4MjEwNA&ctz=3DAme= rica%2FNew_York&hl=3Den&es=3D1>
>>
>> Invitation from Google Calendar <https://calendar.g= oogle.com/calendar/>
>>
>> You are receiving this email because you are subscribed to calenda= r
>> notifications. To stop receiving these emails, go to Calendar sett= ings
>> <https://calendar.google.com/calendar/r/s= ettings>, select this calendar,
>> and change "Other notifications".
>>
>> Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a res= ponse to
>> the organizer, be added to the guest list, invite others regardles= s of
>> their own invitation status, or modify your RSVP. Learn more
>> <https://support.google.com/c= alendar/answer/37135#forwarding>
>>
>>
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