From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yw1-x1133.google.com (mail-yw1-x1133.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAEBC3B29D for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2022 22:12:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-yw1-x1133.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-36ad4cf9132so105033977b3.6 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2022 19:12:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=IcNpXqKjxzu5cW09ff0r2BsoqH1amTe96KqsjyuSHE8=; b=BgT132iciSkKA5wWqRrKozmuFttM3d5VCvNeLRwP737SarZPDQx0rmfBLKgG+PAmQd Su+j4DBfABauswL0z2uHgr+XceIqWZVL2A0wVkzjSyUKM/3WTM3m7MPWXVamWr/MbG2q Tzvr9WlWgHDNySHIh4LQu8uBXpNPfQr9jNbwDHldtdUhRCE/Ere6boYF4H//h9syad8P Ygg4ryzpNqk+Kink+b+yIbEV20pOvruVFZMn3jAtKpYZhac7Y9PRwOurn2lVMmtE4KJC v4zOTHoAfmlZ2XtT7p6eB7/LVx7wMXtinz0OOczRi104Zr/WmMFTKbqHM6NaOQqaNGHL YQUQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=IcNpXqKjxzu5cW09ff0r2BsoqH1amTe96KqsjyuSHE8=; b=EpnThRKWnhFZnhfC/TSgeTYI/bhv9tsdk2z283GIy3nDg7esnsHayW94OQk6aIo1mb ifnwRXhkPPNm8bVrt40s6l3ylxDgBIM4mYqcGHzHu+dU0xus27K13jhxu3BgXTyssOW5 /CvLVLSuktewZRUi2V6Xfs0tltth+QWXtuDkBj7LX4Exoyh7C6x0/V/LOVB7khlp8d4i vce1EJPaeHzJYmVJ0KtvwdCQplcmp28nWNN1Fn9GJsbpS0NWh2QQs+ERvZzRSk5xiMIB BCDEKrl6bxA2IPuCH7WW0+I616SbOA0meMRWz9RS0pQI2eiBVLnj4wblWCwtD3ib7tGg Q8mw== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf2kKtkx12vgAtNhVZj68539BX2qnq9R88Gjp8ZLIboVDYEjfxcU dCEbye3paeUMXEc0ML8JaLBOicK4cgFmEO1/44m9fddAiIM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM52Cm12U0KHCZBwlk0/C61kBPrevI/p5WPVmoasOMzPrBpKjvW6ahfjnWcgtArBDxtqX7AoyyR6IjiNNgMVPJM= X-Received: by 2002:a81:484a:0:b0:36b:7d6c:d85 with SMTP id v71-20020a81484a000000b0036b7d6c0d85mr16729605ywa.8.1666750323169; Tue, 25 Oct 2022 19:12:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: dan Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 20:11:52 -0600 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f11ec205ebe68cea" Subject: Re: [LibreQoS] xgs-pon? X-BeenThere: libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Many ISPs need the kinds of quality shaping cake can do List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 02:12:04 -0000 --000000000000f11ec205ebe68cea Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable TDS fiber is a fairly large provider with XGS-PON deployments. They sell a 2Gbps synchronous service with the ONU having a 2.5G copper interface. I have a couple Eero Pro 6E units on this service. Key piece is that it's a 10Gbps synchronous TDMA strand. The 2Gbps might not be that common, but with typical oversells on 10G you can do a LOT of 500M and 1G plans. Ubiquiti has a product in alpha, I believe we can talk about it next month... Also an interesting use case is an SFP+ OLT from Tibit feeting a pile of tower side radios on a single strand and a 8,16,or 32:1 splitter... Or throw that OLT in a Siklu 8010 (10Gbps FDX 80Ghz radio) and feed the APs off the SFP+ ONU units... I'm just waiting for a demo unit to get here to do a cambium v3000 3.5Gbps PTP shot to a group of WAVE APs and 2 450Ms. Fun times. On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 7:48 PM Dave Taht via LibreQoS < libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > https://www.fiercetelecom.com/telecom/xgs-pon-now-north-americas-go-techn= ology-heynen > > I'm not sure how to interpret this as either being in a fantasy > portion of america that I've not seen, > or as something more genuine in places of sufficient affluence to also > have flying cars on every roof. > > What the heck can you do with 8Gbit FTTH? And no IP addresses? > > > -- > This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: > > https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-698136666= 5607352320-FXtz > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > _______________________________________________ > LibreQoS mailing list > LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos > --000000000000f11ec205ebe68cea Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
TDS fiber is a fairly large provider with XGS-PON deployme= nts.=C2=A0 They sell a 2Gbps synchronous=C2=A0service with the ONU having a= 2.5G copper interface.=C2=A0 I have a couple Eero Pro 6E units on this ser= vice.=C2=A0=C2=A0

Key piece is that it's a 10Gbps synchronous=C2= =A0TDMA strand.=C2=A0 The 2Gbps might not be that common, but with typical = oversells on 10G you can do a LOT of 500M and 1G plans.=C2=A0

Ubiqui= ti has a product in alpha, I believe we can talk about it next month...
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Also an interesting use case is an SFP+ OLT from Tibit=C2=A0feeting a p= ile of tower side radios on a single strand and a 8,16,or 32:1 splitter...= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Or throw that OLT in a Siklu 8010 (10Gbps FDX 80Ghz radio) an= d feed the APs off the SFP+ ONU units...=C2=A0 I'm just waiting for a d= emo unit to get here to do a cambium v3000 3.5Gbps PTP shot to a group of W= AVE APs and 2 450Ms.=C2=A0 Fun times.

<= div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 7:48 PM Dave T= aht via LibreQoS <libr= eqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
https://www.fiercetelecom.com/telecom/xgs-pon-now-north-america= s-go-technology-heynen

I'm not sure how to interpret this as either being in a fantasy
portion of america that I've not seen,
or as something more genuine in places of sufficient affluence to also
have flying cars on every roof.

What the heck can you do with 8Gbit FTTH? And no IP addresses?


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