From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yb1-xb35.google.com (mail-yb1-xb35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78BC73CB38 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2023 18:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-yb1-xb35.google.com with SMTP id z83so29083590ybb.2 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2023 15:24:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1680301444; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=yNF9pPzaWuSxPjTcWKHNPYi2ZhZfFUhxkIwmXIFd8JI=; b=NpXyrfTa2WCYsJaCBJ/LKzpOU9NNDsUTeIbHfnLHNJ1ous9isTfNLLSXHX63By/3+6 SYsRmDaazkvs0ZmLHhOX0yf0Zjx/Yqn2Zfme7wy96bKaxImrOmM6BzgqDlczSvo6d5m8 Es+MpYFloYbTRcZPG6GMnAwzJ/RCgMcB7Fke6jb2Lz/Ed1LwA3TSMTlre+gWux3eK07/ 58MywzPCdzyoit1+1OemaVn1825qyNBLlwt8fvORrHk0u4SIsLUD4MKOard3XMQGHwTv YlDWJsO19rsPDSsKm2mV8KHTOPVDgTAUr08ysD4O+0N7tcFLSs/W7I7n26x6UnqxXoSu Wqng== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1680301444; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=yNF9pPzaWuSxPjTcWKHNPYi2ZhZfFUhxkIwmXIFd8JI=; b=dYkqsluDr+PWy+LNTcM6ceNbOXoE5eNtauf6DALyQLU5riP3jvUZEedsZyLDLeN+Ji S6vs2Mc0TdAxbSdcBngut5Qun8GgB5uc6YyqcKvU0mk9q9kwP7WQFXJ+JqJ3+LGXJwxv QatlgiSmmcnMgx598F0Nvow6R43Fs7kNhsSsaO7o3zQtbZBpE79kO2c2pKvRGPhBeNx8 OkmO9En+8RbIh3kWBCYZftBajVkiUFfymwHSTenDDA+ZOytEy1BoJ5TKJ3j1LOwHoNcb zCzPEuGqpXtaJT/FHsggPEJMhvTp8pVo78xnlkLm/LhrhCqT3nPHwo/OMLVt45dvfjxt WFkQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9dR/GuEQ5XzKqaHEXwcRItLjDeZvcssJKBuzgBb/+8yWyU859tY 9xv7PzxFwV2FYraUzZCy0GYXm/FiJe+TFBWHs1I= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350aHP1uScntan7gkBUV9aYlRDh74wq2Fa7kcmEdstv5v1ZP1/O0ZO5wR6A/YL2StR+8t9Dxjt0hEQ+1IT0uDkR4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:10c3:b0:b75:9519:dbcd with SMTP id w3-20020a05690210c300b00b759519dbcdmr19450594ybu.12.1680301443646; Fri, 31 Mar 2023 15:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 1064022179695 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Fri, 31 Mar 2023 17:24:03 -0500 Received: from 1064022179695 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Fri, 31 Mar 2023 17:23:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mimestream 0.41.6) References: In-Reply-To: From: dan Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 17:24:03 -0500 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: libreqos Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000aa09ba05f839aadb" Subject: Re: [LibreQoS] Fwd: [Starlink] Glass to glass latency test with video over QUIC X-BeenThere: libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Many ISPs need the kinds of quality shaping cake can do List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 22:24:04 -0000 --000000000000aa09ba05f839aadb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What=E2=80=99s the bitrate on the video though? It=E2=80=99s not that har= d to push uncompressed data out at low latency. I want to see a compressed <10Mbps encode/decode. On Mar 31, 2023 at 2:34:53 AM, Dave Taht via LibreQoS < libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: David Fern=C3=A1ndez via Starlink > Date: Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 1:32=E2=80=AFAM > Subject: [Starlink] Glass to glass latency test with video over QUIC > To: > > > I think some of you may be interested in this type of latency > measurements. See below for setup details (SW used). > > Demo video (4m): https://youtu.be/adckQdZHECQ > > It seems this is State of the Art. I understand this test is done > using FTTH at a minimum of 300 Mbit/s (symmetric), which is common and > quite affordable in Barcelona area nowadays, but maybe he was even > using Wi-Fi, not wired connection. > > Regards, > > David > > ---------- Mensaje reenviado ---------- > From: Jordi Cenzano Ferret > To: Cullen Jennings , Jordi Cenzano Ferret > > Cc: MOQ Mailing List > Bcc: > Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 05:41:14 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Moq] Just FYI New media packager added 91+% efficient - > NO action needed > Thanks for your kind words Cullen, and thanks to the chairs for the agend= a > time. > > Please try the demo yourself, play with it and ping me for any > clarifications you need or problems you find. Those are some pointers: > > Demo video (4m): https://youtu.be/adckQdZHECQ > > > Encoder & Player code: > https://github.com/facebookexperimental/webcodecs-capture-play > > Server/Relay code: > https://github.com/facebookexperimental/go-media-webtransport-server > > > Links to send/play data to a relay in Frankfurt (EU) > > Encoder link > > Player link > > Links to sened / play data to a relay in Oregon (USA) > > Encoder link > > Player link > > > I hope all of you have a nice trip back! > Jordi > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > > -- > AMA March 31: https://www.broadband.io/c/broadband-grant-events/dave-taht > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > _______________________________________________ > LibreQoS mailing list > LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos > --000000000000aa09ba05f839aadb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What=E2=80=99s the bitrate on the video though?=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s not = that hard to push uncompressed data out at low latency.=C2=A0 I want to see= a compressed <10Mbps encode/decode.



On Mar 31, 2023 at 2:34:53 AM, Da= ve Taht via LibreQoS <= libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
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---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: David Fern=C3=A1ndez vi= a Starlink <starlink@l= ists.bufferbloat.net>
Date: Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 1:32=E2=80=AFAM<= br>Subject: [Starlink] Glass to glass latency test with video over QUIC
= To: <starlink@lists.bu= fferbloat.net>


I think some of you may be interested in t= his type of latency
measurements. See below for setup details (SW used).=

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Demo video (4m): https://youtu.be/adckQdZHECQ

It seems this is State of= the Art. I understand this test is done
using FTTH at a minimum of 300 = Mbit/s (symmetric), which is common and
quite affordable in Barcelona ar= ea nowadays, but maybe he was even
using Wi-Fi, not wired connection.
Regards,

David

---------- Mensaje reenviado ----------From: Jordi Cenzano Ferret <jcenz= ano@meta.com>
To: Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca>, Jordi Cenzano Ferret
<jcenzano=3D40meta.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
= Cc: MOQ Mailing List <moq@ietf.org&g= t;
Bcc:
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 05:41:14 +0000
Subject: Re: [Moq] J= ust FYI New media packager added 91+% efficient -
NO action needed
Th= anks for your kind words Cullen, and thanks to the chairs for the agenda ti= me.

Please try the demo yourself, play with it and ping me for anyclarifications you need or problems you find. Those are some pointers:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Demo video (4m): https://youtu.be/adckQdZHECQ


=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Encod= er & Player code:
https://github.com/facebookexperimental/webcodecs-= capture-play

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Server/Relay code:
http= s://github.com/facebookexperimental/go-media-webtransport-server

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Links to send/play data to a relay in Frankfurt (EU= )

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Encoder link

= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Player link

=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0Links to sened / play data to a relay in Oregon (USA)

=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Encoder link

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Player link


I hope all of you have a nic= e trip back!
Jordi
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