* [LibreQoS] Fwd: Got BEAD? Looking for a turnkey partner to help streamline the next steps? [not found] <9579202856.3@informz.net> @ 2023-07-11 14:53 ` Dave Taht 2023-07-11 15:01 ` [LibreQoS] " Frank Carmickle 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Dave Taht @ 2023-07-11 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: libreqos [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3262 bytes --] I know everyone here hates paperwork as much or more than I do. ... but me, in particular, would really like to find an ONT that runs fq_codel natively I could recommend. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Network Connex <infofiber@fiberbroadband.org> Date: Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 8:01 AM Subject: Got BEAD? Looking for a turnkey partner to help streamline the next steps? To: <dave.taht@gmail.com> <http://FHC.informz.net/z/cjUucD9taT05MDIzNTQ1JnA9MSZ1PTk1ODY2MDQyNyZsaT04MTMzNTgzMg/index.html> *$45 billion+ in government funding * *will help make it happen * Starting in 2023 and continuing through 2026, Federal programs like BEAD and CPF will provide every state with resources to meet the goal for all households to have access to affordable high speed broadband broadband service. *Is your team ready with a turnkey partner? * Municipalities, fiber network service providers, and ISPs will have multiple opportunities to apply for broadband funds over the next four years. Network Connex experts understand the specifics of the funding programs in each state and can help package and submit grant requests that are compliant, innovative, and maximize the scoring system for programs like: - ARPA/SLRFR - Capital Projects Fund (CPF) - ReConnect - BEAD - E-Rate - Digital Equity *Simplified solutions for quick deployment* Network Connex delivers rapid, mission-critical design and deployment solutions to municipalities and fiber wireless network service providers. Our team understands the complexities of fiber system design and expert installation to support projects from site acquisition to deployment and ongoing maintenance. *Read about our FTTH expertise* Learn More <http://FHC.informz.net/z/cjUucD9taT05MDIzNTQ1JnA9MSZ1PTk1ODY2MDQyNyZsaT04MTMzNTgzMw/index.html> *Get in touch* Network Connex can help you coordinate, secure, and deploy fiber and wireless projects in your area. Contact Us <http://FHC.informz.net/z/cjUucD9taT05MDIzNTQ1JnA9MSZ1PTk1ODY2MDQyNyZsaT04MTMzNTgzNA/index.html> Network Connex, 5101 Thatcher Rd., Downers Grove, IL 60515 [image: linkedin] <http://FHC.informz.net/z/cjUucD9taT05MDIzNTQ1JnA9MSZ1PTk1ODY2MDQyNyZsaT04MTMzNTgzNQ/index.html> [image: Facebook] <http://FHC.informz.net/z/cjUucD9taT05MDIzNTQ1JnA9MSZ1PTk1ODY2MDQyNyZsaT04MTMzNTgzNg/index.html> [image: twitter] <http://FHC.informz.net/z/cjUucD9taT05MDIzNTQ1JnA9MSZ1PTk1ODY2MDQyNyZsaT04MTMzNTgzNw/index.html> [image: instagram] <http://FHC.informz.net/z/cjUucD9taT05MDIzNTQ1JnA9MSZ1PTk1ODY2MDQyNyZsaT04MTMzNTgzOA/index.html> Unsubscribe from Fiber Broadband Association <http://FHC.informz.net/z/cjUucD9taT05MDIzNTQ1JnU9OTU4NjYwNDI3JmxpPTgxMzM1ODM5Jmw9aHR0cDovL0ZIQy5pbmZvcm16Lm5ldC9GSEMvcGFnZXMvZGVmYXVsdF91bnN1YnNjcmliZT9fenM9M0tNaFExfF96bWk9TE1FbQ/index.html> [image: Higher Logic] <http://FHC.informz.net/z/cjUucD9taT05MDIzNTQ1JnA9MSZ1PTk1ODY2MDQyNyZsaT04MTMzNTg0MA/index.html> <http://FHC.informz.net/InformzDataService/mailing/bcd/bWFpbGluZ0luc3RhbmNlSWQ9OTAyMzU0NSZzdWJzY3JpYmVySWQ9OTU4NjYwNDI3> -- Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7058793910227111937/ Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 25155 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [LibreQoS] Got BEAD? Looking for a turnkey partner to help streamline the next steps? 2023-07-11 14:53 ` [LibreQoS] Fwd: Got BEAD? Looking for a turnkey partner to help streamline the next steps? Dave Taht @ 2023-07-11 15:01 ` Frank Carmickle 2023-07-11 15:09 ` Jeremy Austin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Frank Carmickle @ 2023-07-11 15:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dave Taht, Dave Taht via LibreQoS Dave, > On Jul 11, 2023, at 10:53, Dave Taht via LibreQoS <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > I know everyone here hates paperwork as much or more than I do. > > ... but me, in particular, would really like to find an ONT that runs fq_codel natively I could recommend. Have you looked at SFP modules that do PON? https://www.fs.com/products/141199.html https://community.fs.com/blog/basic-knowledge-about-gpon-sfp-transceivers.html --FC > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Network Connex <infofiber@fiberbroadband.org> > Date: Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 8:01 AM > Subject: Got BEAD? Looking for a turnkey partner to help streamline the next steps? > To: <dave.taht@gmail.com> > > > $45 billion+ in government funding will help make it happen Starting in 2023 and continuing through 2026, Federal programs like BEAD and CPF will provide every state with resources to meet the goal for all households to have access to affordable high speed broadband broadband service. Is your team ready with a turnkey partner? Municipalities, fiber network service providers, and ISPs will have multiple opportunities to apply for broadband funds over the next four years. Network Connex experts understand the specifics of the funding programs in each state and can help package and submit grant requests that are compliant, innovative, and maximize the scoring system for programs like: > • ARPA/SLRFR > • Capital Projects Fund (CPF) > • ReConnect > • BEAD > • E-Rate > • Digital Equity > Simplified solutions for quick deployment Network Connex delivers rapid, mission-critical design and deployment solutions to municipalities and fiber wireless network service providers. Our team understands the complexities of fiber system design and expert installation to support projects from site acquisition to deployment and ongoing maintenance. Read about our FTTH expertise Learn More Get in touch > Network Connex can help you coordinate, secure, > and deploy fiber and wireless projects in your area. Contact Us Network Connex, 5101 Thatcher Rd., Downers Grove, IL 60515 > Unsubscribe from Fiber Broadband Association > > -- > Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7058793910227111937/ > Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos > _______________________________________________ > LibreQoS mailing list > LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [LibreQoS] Got BEAD? Looking for a turnkey partner to help streamline the next steps? 2023-07-11 15:01 ` [LibreQoS] " Frank Carmickle @ 2023-07-11 15:09 ` Jeremy Austin 2023-07-11 15:13 ` Frank Carmickle 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Jeremy Austin @ 2023-07-11 15:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Frank Carmickle; +Cc: Dave Taht, Dave Taht via LibreQoS [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1364 bytes --] On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 7:01 AM Frank Carmickle via LibreQoS < libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > Dave, > > > On Jul 11, 2023, at 10:53, Dave Taht via LibreQoS < > libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > > > I know everyone here hates paperwork as much or more than I do. > > > > ... but me, in particular, would really like to find an ONT that runs > fq_codel natively I could recommend. > > Have you looked at SFP modules that do PON? > > https://www.fs.com/products/141199.html > > > https://community.fs.com/blog/basic-knowledge-about-gpon-sfp-transceivers.html Can the the thermal envelope for an SFP truly accommodate traffic shaping? I’m thinking not at the current state of CPU art. Would be delighted to be wrong. Jeremy -- [image: Company logo] *Jeremy Austin* Sr. Product Manager *Preseem | Aterlo Networks* Book a call: https://app.hubspot.com/meetings/jeremy548 1-833-773-7336 ext 718 <18337737336718> *|* 1-907-803-5422 <19078035422> jeremy@aterlo.com <email%7D> www.preseem.com [image: facebook icon] <https://www.facebook.com/preseem> [image: twitter icon] <https://twitter.com/preseem> [image: linkedin icon] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/4287641/> [image: youtube icon] <https://www.youtube.com/c/Preseem> [image: Ask us about our new features today!] <https://preseem.com/features/> [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 4866 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [LibreQoS] Got BEAD? Looking for a turnkey partner to help streamline the next steps? 2023-07-11 15:09 ` Jeremy Austin @ 2023-07-11 15:13 ` Frank Carmickle 2023-07-11 15:16 ` Jeremy Austin 2023-07-11 15:30 ` Dave Taht 0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Frank Carmickle @ 2023-07-11 15:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dave Taht via LibreQoS Jeremy, > On Jul 11, 2023, at 11:09, Jeremy Austin <jeremy@aterlo.com> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 7:01 AM Frank Carmickle via LibreQoS <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > Dave, > > > On Jul 11, 2023, at 10:53, Dave Taht via LibreQoS <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > > > I know everyone here hates paperwork as much or more than I do. > > > > ... but me, in particular, would really like to find an ONT that runs fq_codel natively I could recommend. > > Have you looked at SFP modules that do PON? > > https://www.fs.com/products/141199.html > > https://community.fs.com/blog/basic-knowledge-about-gpon-sfp-transceivers.html > > Can the the thermal envelope for an SFP truly accommodate traffic shaping? I’m thinking not at the current state of CPU art. Would be delighted to be wrong. Certainly not. My point was that one could connect an SFP to a system that has a CPU where the shaping could be performed. --FC > > Jeremy > -- > Jeremy Austin > Sr. Product Manager > Preseem | Aterlo Networks > Book a call: https://app.hubspot.com/meetings/jeremy548 > 1-833-773-7336 ext 718 | 1-907-803-5422 > jeremy@aterlo.com > www.preseem.com > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [LibreQoS] Got BEAD? Looking for a turnkey partner to help streamline the next steps? 2023-07-11 15:13 ` Frank Carmickle @ 2023-07-11 15:16 ` Jeremy Austin 2023-07-11 15:31 ` Dave Taht 2023-07-11 15:30 ` Dave Taht 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Jeremy Austin @ 2023-07-11 15:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Frank Carmickle; +Cc: Dave Taht via LibreQoS [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2194 bytes --] A man can dream :) On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 7:13 AM Frank Carmickle via LibreQoS < libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > Jeremy, > > > On Jul 11, 2023, at 11:09, Jeremy Austin <jeremy@aterlo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 7:01 AM Frank Carmickle via LibreQoS < > libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > Dave, > > > > > On Jul 11, 2023, at 10:53, Dave Taht via LibreQoS < > libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > > > > > I know everyone here hates paperwork as much or more than I do. > > > > > > ... but me, in particular, would really like to find an ONT that runs > fq_codel natively I could recommend. > > > > Have you looked at SFP modules that do PON? > > > > https://www.fs.com/products/141199.html > > > > > https://community.fs.com/blog/basic-knowledge-about-gpon-sfp-transceivers.html > > > > Can the the thermal envelope for an SFP truly accommodate traffic > shaping? I’m thinking not at the current state of CPU art. Would be > delighted to be wrong. > > Certainly not. My point was that one could connect an SFP to a system that > has a CPU where the shaping could be performed. > > --FC > > > > > > Jeremy > > -- > > Jeremy Austin > > Sr. Product Manager > > Preseem | Aterlo Networks > > Book a call: https://app.hubspot.com/meetings/jeremy548 > > 1-833-773-7336 ext 718 | 1-907-803-5422 > > jeremy@aterlo.com > > www.preseem.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > LibreQoS mailing list > LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos > -- [image: Company logo] *Jeremy Austin* Sr. Product Manager *Preseem | Aterlo Networks* Book a call: https://app.hubspot.com/meetings/jeremy548 1-833-773-7336 ext 718 <18337737336718> *|* 1-907-803-5422 <19078035422> jeremy@aterlo.com <email%7D> www.preseem.com [image: facebook icon] <https://www.facebook.com/preseem> [image: twitter icon] <https://twitter.com/preseem> [image: linkedin icon] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/4287641/> [image: youtube icon] <https://www.youtube.com/c/Preseem> [image: Ask us about our new features today!] <https://preseem.com/features/> [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 6284 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [LibreQoS] Got BEAD? Looking for a turnkey partner to help streamline the next steps? 2023-07-11 15:16 ` Jeremy Austin @ 2023-07-11 15:31 ` Dave Taht 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Dave Taht @ 2023-07-11 15:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jeremy Austin; +Cc: Frank Carmickle, Dave Taht via LibreQoS [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2768 bytes --] My all time favorite song and inspiration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo7VlD66ISM On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 9:17 AM Jeremy Austin via LibreQoS < libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > A man can dream :) > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 7:13 AM Frank Carmickle via LibreQoS < > libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > >> Jeremy, >> >> > On Jul 11, 2023, at 11:09, Jeremy Austin <jeremy@aterlo.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 7:01 AM Frank Carmickle via LibreQoS < >> libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: >> > Dave, >> > >> > > On Jul 11, 2023, at 10:53, Dave Taht via LibreQoS < >> libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: >> > > >> > > I know everyone here hates paperwork as much or more than I do. >> > > >> > > ... but me, in particular, would really like to find an ONT that runs >> fq_codel natively I could recommend. >> > >> > Have you looked at SFP modules that do PON? >> > >> > https://www.fs.com/products/141199.html >> > >> > >> https://community.fs.com/blog/basic-knowledge-about-gpon-sfp-transceivers.html >> > >> > Can the the thermal envelope for an SFP truly accommodate traffic >> shaping? I’m thinking not at the current state of CPU art. Would be >> delighted to be wrong. >> >> Certainly not. My point was that one could connect an SFP to a system >> that has a CPU where the shaping could be performed. >> >> --FC >> >> >> > >> > Jeremy >> > -- >> > Jeremy Austin >> > Sr. Product Manager >> > Preseem | Aterlo Networks >> > Book a call: https://app.hubspot.com/meetings/jeremy548 >> > 1-833-773-7336 ext 718 | 1-907-803-5422 >> > jeremy@aterlo.com >> > www.preseem.com >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> LibreQoS mailing list >> LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos >> > -- > [image: Company logo] > *Jeremy Austin* > Sr. Product Manager > *Preseem | Aterlo Networks* > Book a call: https://app.hubspot.com/meetings/jeremy548 > 1-833-773-7336 ext 718 <18337737336718> *|* 1-907-803-5422 <19078035422> > jeremy@aterlo.com <email%7D> > www.preseem.com > [image: facebook icon] <https://www.facebook.com/preseem> [image: > twitter icon] <https://twitter.com/preseem> [image: linkedin icon] > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/4287641/> [image: youtube icon] > <https://www.youtube.com/c/Preseem> > [image: Ask us about our new features today!] > <https://preseem.com/features/> > _______________________________________________ > LibreQoS mailing list > LibreQoS@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos > -- Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7058793910227111937/ Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 7674 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [LibreQoS] Got BEAD? Looking for a turnkey partner to help streamline the next steps? 2023-07-11 15:13 ` Frank Carmickle 2023-07-11 15:16 ` Jeremy Austin @ 2023-07-11 15:30 ` Dave Taht 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Dave Taht @ 2023-07-11 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Frank Carmickle; +Cc: Dave Taht via LibreQoS The simplest possible thing is SFP on an OLT that actually sends ethernet pause frames when the local buffer has enough data, which so far as I can tell from looking at GPON specs is about 250us . That would let a router on the other side of it, just run good ole fq_codel + BQL without needing any shaping there. That exist? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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