From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf0-x231.google.com (mail-lf0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7C753BA8E for ; Wed, 30 May 2018 14:58:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x231.google.com with SMTP id z142-v6so5914559lff.5 for ; Wed, 30 May 2018 11:58:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=is+KabZPtDHdASIIEKephTP5zZ2M7+K3ryXfxCKB1tk=; b=p3yykhaLD1gpeqFu/z/EDk44iO/UeyThPuIMb1qrD4d5fufX7TKQkCeyu+x8YQw5QH Z9603pqvkDy+rEJKsnB04zLG4707c7awtjnS5pqkoLOn2e5ZM5Nx5++/Wjd6Qr6m54YO 3tUWLjuisun+ca7Ray+f5T1Llnj04PhbXGxW7vZ/YSyuDlA3ckJ0TiTTNpJCm8gp1b+z GK8+WCJ3UoRSIVZnd7NZDNh8SPC7AAgRvY5GIqQxms6eNfXHNjUMuhPbB/pQQt/KzE01 NxJHBhyMmzhLiWVzLlip2LfUbn50FFcfy3k1EAeydPKgOa/HzDt3rlW1IhIBa46VkpLL Or/Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=is+KabZPtDHdASIIEKephTP5zZ2M7+K3ryXfxCKB1tk=; b=tBbdL3YGhnk8yS8vvmmODcZjhvbP3osFEgerGFF/xuoaQgWVvQoJh+4CtdPkWplVrK xYjfawi77oDjPB6khSj7sHib8yWKqWTxgSI/AV7KE5LNrk9Xyp3l25v09zayNLaeOvZ4 9WIe6KB07pGHSQuMKWzWRJcsTY1+1Fh4/urKLqh5JG9lRW4IxTb5qx7+O+WqSQKFA/Rh f7TMatbEfDvNnYCP6uRTikEk7cAOWArOcpDS0NEBh6N2pS0a0UAK6/AeU6NP/wJsEWZ/ mBiZGld29GG7XqYMVckVJkcv5r/pQAG8o3apnn4zwsuXqzxZVoefP2T+cAIq6TxD9vFl hFJA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwcUeM0dlArina/jrD5eIz3MTCKNfxWqywJMytaNnElHvnfefXjA 9nZraAolUgwm/HUkQlctudk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKJq+TG6rl+ra8bi5hFFgk51fbjhgV2W2Rqs3vyP+lspXOvCdBPK5SU3FP+RG1djMukhwoqROw== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:1b0a:: with SMTP id b10-v6mr2757803ljb.76.1527706710805; Wed, 30 May 2018 11:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.239.216] (83-245-233-104-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi. [83.245.233.104]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o80-v6sm7931303lfb.41.2018.05.30.11.58.29 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 30 May 2018 11:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 21:58:28 +0300 Cc: Bob McMahon , Make-Wifi-fast Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0C79974F-0C2B-4FDD-B1A0-5EF0AEFFF205@gmail.com> References: To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.18) Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] emulating wifi better - coupling qdiscs in netem? X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 18:58:32 -0000 > On 30 May, 2018, at 9:54 pm, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > The core requirement is somehow emulating the single transmitter at a > time behavior of wireless technologies. In this way of thinking, an > interfere-er is just another transmitter in emulation. Does it help if you redirect all that traffic through a single ifb = device, and thus a single qdisc? - Jonathan Morton