From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp86.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (smtp86.iad3a.emailsrvr.com [173.203.187.86]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29D7121F9D8 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 2015 12:06:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp11.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp11.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 22E85100251; Sat, 5 Dec 2015 15:06:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from app17.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay-webapps.rsapps.net [172.27.255.140]) by smtp11.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 109441000ED; Sat, 5 Dec 2015 15:06:08 -0500 (EST) X-Sender-Id: dpreed@reed.com Received: from app17.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay-webapps.rsapps.net [172.27.255.140]) by 0.0.0.0:25 (trex/5.5.4); Sat, 05 Dec 2015 15:06:08 -0500 Received: from reed.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by app17.wa-webapps.iad3a (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2EFC280064; Sat, 5 Dec 2015 15:06:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by apps.rackspace.com (Authenticated sender: dpreed@reed.com, from: dpreed@reed.com) with HTTP; Sat, 5 Dec 2015 15:06:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 15:06:07 -0500 (EST) From: dpreed@reed.com To: "Dave Taht" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_20151205150607000000_69246" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Type: html In-Reply-To: References: X-Auth-ID: dpreed@reed.com Message-ID: <1449345967.993118030@apps.rackspace.com> X-Mailer: webmail/11.6.7-RC Cc: Christopher Waid , make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net, bufferbloat-fcc-discuss Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] on savewifi.org and establishing the value to the world of wifi X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2015 20:06:32 -0000 ------=_20151205150607000000_69246 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0AHighly related issue here:=0A =0Ahttps://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/12/t= pp-threatens-security-and-safety-locking-down-us-policy-source-code-audit= =0A =0AI've been involved behind the scenes with fighting this trend toward= embodying imperial power in secretly negotiated trade agreements, which ha= ve the force of national law in all adopting countries. The first round was= focused on intellectual property (so-called Xcast rights, which would gran= t websites absolute rights to block transmissions of content, *independent = of copyright and copyright assignments* by the creators).=0A=0AThis new rou= nd appears to be focused on establishing absolute international "trade secr= ecy" rights. So much so, that the rights to embed surveillance tools and b= ackdoors is considered to be in the best interests of the corporate/nationa= l power elites.=0A =0AThat means any ownership of your personal private com= munications goes out the window - unless of course you trust NSA, GCHQ, Chi= na, Google, ATT, Verizon, Russia, various manufacturers of communications g= ear, etc. *all* to be interested in your personal privacy. and capable of f= inding and fixing all backdoors/security flaws, ... in everything sold acro= ss borders. That's a lot to trust.=0A =0A =0A=0AOn Saturday, December 5, 20= 15 6:59am, "Dave Taht" said:=0A=0A=0A=0A> I had a cou= ple meta-thoughts this morning about how to make the real=0A> importance of= wifi more apparent.=0A> =0A> A thought would be to ask various folk (or do= a contest, or ask the=0A> world at large) - to write an essay or story whe= re they=0A> =0A> A) imagine a world where wifi never happened=0A> =0A> or= =0A> =0A> B) Or one where it was made more illegal than it is today (or les= s -=0A> what would wifi be like if wep and wpa not been adopted, favoring e= 2e=0A> encryption, and responsibility for running open APs didn't fall on t= he=0A> owner)?=0A> =0A> or=0A> =0A> C) imagine one where wifi fails complet= ely (As it already does in=0A> large cities and at distance, and in crowded= areas)=0A> =0A> or=0A> =0A> D) talked about what they used wifi for origin= ally and what they use=0A> it for today.=0A> =0A> or=0A> =0A> E) What it co= uld be used for tomorrow?=0A> =0A> I've done a lot of story-telling about w= hat wifi means and meant to=0A> *me* over the years... (and can easily do m= ore)=0A> =0A> but I'll argue that discussion on everything from serious stu= ff=0A> analysing the economic impact, the change in people's habits, the ri= se=0A> of entirely new markets, to trival stuff like "how wifi save my=0A> = poodle's life", to stories like Stross/Doctorow's "the unwirer"......=0A> (= which I remember reading online, it's well worth buying) [1]=0A> =0A> in or= der to preserve this wonderful freedom-full wireless technology=0A> we are = so in danger of losing.... as it's unclear, sometimes, what,=0A> exactly, w= e're fighting for, here.=0A> =0A> [1] I would have loved to have seen docto= row's talk earlier this week:=0A> =0A> "No Matter who's Winning the War on = General Purpose Computing, You're Losing"=0A> =0A> http://www.online-educa.= com/programme/agenda/sessions/com11=0A> =0A> hope it was filmed.?=0A> =0A> = Dave T=C3=A4ht=0A> Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better = software!=0A> https://www.gofundme.com/savewifi=0A> _______________________= ________________________=0A> Make-wifi-fast mailing list=0A> Make-wifi-fast= @lists.bufferbloat.net=0A> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi= -fast=0A> ------=_20151205150607000000_69246 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

High= ly related issue here:

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I've been involved= behind the scenes with fighting this trend toward embodying imperial power= in secretly negotiated trade agreements, which have the force of national = law in all adopting countries. The first round was focused on intellectual = property (so-called Xcast rights, which would grant websites absolute right= s to block transmissions of content, *independent of copyright and copyrigh= t assignments* by the creators).

This new round appears to be fo= cused on establishing absolute international "trade secrecy" rights.  = So much so, that the rights to embed surveillance tools and backdoors is co= nsidered to be in the best interests of the corporate/national power elites= .

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That means any ownership of your personal private communications goes o= ut the window - unless of course you trust NSA, GCHQ, China, Google, ATT, V= erizon, Russia, various manufacturers of communications gear, etc. *all* to= be interested in your personal privacy. and capable of finding and fixing = all backdoors/security flaws, ... in everything sold across borders. That's= a lot to trust.

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On Sat= urday, December 5, 2015 6:59am, "Dave Taht" <dave.taht@gmail.com> sai= d:

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> I had a couple meta-thoughts this morning about how to make= the real
> importance of wifi more apparent.
>
> = A thought would be to ask various folk (or do a contest, or ask the
&g= t; world at large) - to write an essay or story where they
>
= > A) imagine a world where wifi never happened
>
> or>
> B) Or one where it was made more illegal than it is tod= ay (or less -
> what would wifi be like if wep and wpa not been ado= pted, favoring e2e
> encryption, and responsibility for running ope= n APs didn't fall on the
> owner)?
>
> or
>= ;
> C) imagine one where wifi fails completely (As it already does= in
> large cities and at distance, and in crowded areas)
>=
> or
>
> D) talked about what they used wifi for= originally and what they use
> it for today.
>
> = or
>
> E) What it could be used for tomorrow?
> > I've done a lot of story-telling about what wifi means and meant t= o
> *me* over the years... (and can easily do more)
>
> but I'll argue that discussion on everything from serious stuff
= > analysing the economic impact, the change in people's habits, the rise=
> of entirely new markets, to trival stuff like "how wifi save my<= br />> poodle's life", to stories like Stross/Doctorow's "the unwirer"..= ....
> (which I remember reading online, it's well worth buying) [1= ]
>
> in order to preserve this wonderful freedom-full wir= eless technology
> we are so in danger of losing.... as it's unclea= r, sometimes, what,
> exactly, we're fighting for, here.
> =
> [1] I would have loved to have seen doctorow's talk earlier this= week:
>
> "No Matter who's Winning the War on General Pur= pose Computing, You're Losing"
>
> http://www.online-educa= .com/programme/agenda/sessions/com11
>
> hope it was filme= d.?
>
> Dave T=C3=A4ht
> Let's go make home router= s and wifi faster! With better software!
> https://www.gofundme.com= /savewifi
> _______________________________________________
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> Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.n= et
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast
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