From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>,
make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net,
linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
"Felix Fietkau" <nbd@nbd.name>
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v2] mac80211: Move crypto IV generation to after TXQ dequeue.
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 22:43:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1471466600.5173.21.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw4+WTiFAdUJkPaf5aRDy81vMW34TPQt7xSgv95tsXU=cA@mail.gmail.com> (sfid-20160817_220750_313180_B51CF7A4)
> well, we're getting there. the results of both patch attempts were
> really nice, and brought encrypted performance with fq back into line
> with unencrypted. Still running crypted tests as I write...
>
> So fixing TKIP would be next, forcing the AP to use that? What other
> scenarios do we have to worry about? WDS?
>
I don't think there's anything else, I just don't really feel it's
getting anywhere. This is a mere symptom of the design.
Felix had worked around the SN assignment in a similar way, but I feel
that perhaps the whole thing isn't quite the right architecture. Why
are we applying FQ after the wifi conversion, when clearly that doesn't
work well? Seems to me that it would make more sense to let the frames
sit on the queues as they come in, and do most of the wifi handling
only when needed (obviously, things like control port would still have
to be done).
We even count those packets that are dropped for TX statistics, which
would seem to be a big behavioural difference vs. applying a qdisc.
Now, it's unlikely to be that simple - fragmentation, for example,
might mess this up.
Overall though, I'm definitely wondering if it should be this way,
since all the special cases just add complexity.
johannes
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-17 20:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-17 12:58 [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-17 13:08 ` Johannes Berg
2016-08-17 13:16 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-17 13:18 ` Johannes Berg
2016-08-17 13:23 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-17 14:45 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v2] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-17 15:47 ` Noah Causin
2016-08-17 22:33 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-19 3:06 ` Noah Causin
2016-08-22 14:24 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-23 17:06 ` Noah Causin
2016-08-23 17:51 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-17 19:49 ` Johannes Berg
2016-08-17 20:07 ` Dave Taht
2016-08-17 20:43 ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2016-08-22 14:47 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-26 8:38 ` Johannes Berg
2016-08-26 8:54 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-24 16:20 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v3] mac80211: Move reorder-sensitive TX handlers " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-24 22:40 ` Noah Causin
2016-08-25 12:45 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-26 14:30 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-26 14:51 ` Dave Taht
2016-08-30 13:15 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v4] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-30 13:17 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-31 21:06 ` Johannes Berg
2016-09-01 8:23 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-01 8:34 ` Johannes Berg
2016-09-01 8:38 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-01 9:07 ` Johannes Berg
2016-09-01 9:20 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-01 9:27 ` Johannes Berg
2016-09-01 9:42 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-01 16:03 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v5] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-01 17:59 ` Johannes Berg
2016-09-01 18:30 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-01 18:35 ` Johannes Berg
2016-09-02 2:48 ` Jason Andryuk
2016-09-02 9:27 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-02 13:41 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v6] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-02 14:44 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-05 11:30 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v7] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-05 16:06 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-05 17:00 ` Dave Taht
2016-09-05 17:26 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-05 17:59 ` Dave Taht
2016-09-05 20:23 ` Dave Taht
2016-09-05 20:45 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-05 21:02 ` Dave Taht
2016-09-05 21:25 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-05 21:29 ` Dave Taht
2016-09-05 21:35 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-05 21:42 ` Dave Taht
2016-09-05 22:04 ` Dave Taht
2016-09-05 22:01 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-05 22:08 ` Dave Taht
2016-09-05 22:31 ` Dave Taht
2016-09-05 17:49 ` Felix Fietkau
2016-09-05 17:59 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-05 18:45 ` Felix Fietkau
2016-09-06 11:43 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-06 11:45 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-06 11:44 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v8] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-06 22:04 ` Felix Fietkau
2016-09-12 12:35 ` Johannes Berg
2016-09-12 13:08 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-12 13:19 ` Johannes Berg
2016-09-22 17:04 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v9 0/2] mac80211: TXQ dequeue path rework Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-22 17:04 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v9 1/2] mac80211: Move ieee802111_tx_dequeue() to later in tx.c Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-30 11:13 ` Johannes Berg
2016-09-22 17:04 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v9 2/2] mac80211: Move reorder-sensitive TX handlers to after TXQ dequeue Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-30 10:27 ` Johannes Berg
2016-09-30 12:39 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-30 12:43 ` Johannes Berg
2016-09-30 12:45 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-30 12:49 ` Johannes Berg
2016-09-30 14:01 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
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