From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp126.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (smtp126.iad3a.emailsrvr.com [173.203.187.126]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2D473CB37 for ; Thu, 23 May 2019 14:48:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp24.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp24.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A511924AA9; Thu, 23 May 2019 14:48:27 -0400 (EDT) X-SMTPDoctor-Processed: csmtpprox beta Received: from smtp24.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp24.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9E9B924ADB; Thu, 23 May 2019 14:48:27 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=g001.emailsrvr.com; s=20190322-9u7zjiwi; t=1558637307; bh=XEBccGitNtYyssEd0zo2BTQu5uFacl/+s6TTp5lHSBo=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:From; b=BLnX5cpPugP6foqQBn5IaTUNvZ7qWxGKsPafhHTKxDQH9Oisr9SxtW4Oql0q1n9ye it4QzGqx+nT76PbuxnlWEEfesChqTwmVIJp8emwjvc5wQAhCQKc+inJBCtfRKWVnlc xy+WRdEWqXIs2dyyFR+OdyNML7+PbhsT4s9yr8TM= Received: from app43.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay-webapps.rsapps.net [172.27.255.140]) by smtp24.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 72D2C24AA9; Thu, 23 May 2019 14:48:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender-Id: dpreed@deepplum.com Received: from app43.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay-webapps.rsapps.net [172.27.255.140]) by 0.0.0.0:25 (trex/5.7.12); Thu, 23 May 2019 14:48:27 -0400 Received: from deepplum.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by app43.wa-webapps.iad3a (Postfix) with ESMTP id 606BF60046; Thu, 23 May 2019 14:48:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by apps.rackspace.com (Authenticated sender: dpreed@deepplum.com, from: dpreed@deepplum.com) with HTTP; Thu, 23 May 2019 14:48:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Auth-ID: dpreed@deepplum.com Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 14:48:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "David P. Reed" To: "Dave Taht" Cc: "bloat" , "Make-Wifi-fast" , "cerowrt-devel" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_20190523144827000000_84842" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Type: html In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1558637307.393118022@apps.rackspace.com> X-Mailer: webmail/16.4.4-RC Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] =?utf-8?q?=5BCerowrt-devel=5D_will_starlink_have?= =?utf-8?q?_bufferbloat=3F?= X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 18:48:28 -0000 ------=_20190523144827000000_84842 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0ASorry, I can't help - I never spend time or effort on Twitter, Reddit, e= tc. because I see no value and lots of problems in doing that.=0A =0AMusk p= robably wouldn't love my views on most of his companies, anyway.=0AI hope h= e gets something right on this one.=0A =0AOn Wednesday, May 22, 2019 6:45am= , "Dave Taht" said:=0A=0A=0A=0A> And I tried my first= ever post to reddit, not realizing it didn't take html....=0A> =0A> https:= //www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/brn6gg/will_starlink_have_bufferbloat/= =0A> =0A> and slashdot also.=0A> =0A> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 11:53 AM Dave= Taht wrote:=0A> >=0A> > With the first major starlin= k launch stuck on the pad, and having=0A> > never got a straight answer abo= ut how starlink was going to manage=0A> > satellite handovers and admission= control, I came up with an=0A> > "annoyer-in-chief" idea to see if we coul= d find out what the plan was.=0A> >=0A> > If everybody here (500+ members o= f these mailing lists!) could take 2=0A> > minutes to compose an interestin= g tweet or reply to elon musk on the=0A> > subject, maybe we'd get somewher= e. I just did one (=0A> > https://twitter.com/mtaht/status/1131131277413822= 464 ) but a huge=0A> > variety of posts on the theme are possible, other th= oughts were things=0A> > like:=0A> >=0A> > @elonmusk There seems to be no i= ntelligent life among ISPs down here.=0A> > Has #starlink handled the #buff= erbloat problem? (=0A> > https://blog.tohojo.dk/media/bufferbloat-and-beyon= d.pdf )=0A> >=0A> > @elonmusk Keep hoping #bufferbloat will be solved by #s= tarlink - got a=0A> > plan? ( https://blog.tohojo.dk/media/bufferbloat-and-= beyond.pdf )=0A> >=0A> > do it on replies to anything he says about starlin= k, keep doin it, and=0A> > perhaps, an answer will appear.=0A> >=0A> > Some= times ya gotta be loud.=0A> >=0A> > --=0A> >=0A> > Dave T=C3=A4ht=0A> > CTO= , TekLibre, LLC=0A> > http://www.teklibre.com=0A> > Tel: 1-831-205-9740=0A>= =0A> =0A> =0A> --=0A> =0A> Dave T=C3=A4ht=0A> CTO, TekLibre, LLC=0A> http:= //www.teklibre.com=0A> Tel: 1-831-205-9740=0A> ____________________________= ___________________=0A> Cerowrt-devel mailing list=0A> Cerowrt-devel@lists.= bufferbloat.net=0A> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel=0A= > ------=_20190523144827000000_84842 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sorry, I can't help - = I never spend time or effort on Twitter, Reddit, etc. because I see no valu= e and lots of problems in doing that.

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Musk probably wouldn't love my views on most of his= companies, anyway.

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I hope he gets something rig= ht on this one.

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> And I tried my first ever post to reddit, not realizing it did= n't take html....
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/co= mments/brn6gg/will_starlink_have_bufferbloat/
>
> and slas= hdot also.
>
> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 11:53 AM Dave Taht = <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > With the f= irst major starlink launch stuck on the pad, and having
> > neve= r got a straight answer about how starlink was going to manage
> &g= t; satellite handovers and admission control, I came up with an
> &= gt; "annoyer-in-chief" idea to see if we could find out what the plan was.<= br />> >
> > If everybody here (500+ members of these mail= ing lists!) could take 2
> > minutes to compose an interesting t= weet or reply to elon musk on the
> > subject, maybe we'd get so= mewhere. I just did one (
> > https://twitter.com/mtaht/status/1= 131131277413822464 ) but a huge
> > variety of posts on the them= e are possible, other thoughts were things
> > like:
> &= gt;
> > @elonmusk There seems to be no intelligent life among IS= Ps down here.
> > Has #starlink handled the #bufferbloat problem= ? (
> > https://blog.tohojo.dk/media/bufferbloat-and-beyond.pdf = )
> >
> > @elonmusk Keep hoping #bufferbloat will be = solved by #starlink - got a
> > plan? ( https://blog.tohojo.dk/m= edia/bufferbloat-and-beyond.pdf )
> >
> > do it on re= plies to anything he says about starlink, keep doin it, and
> > = perhaps, an answer will appear.
> >
> > Sometimes ya = gotta be loud.
> >
> > --
> >
> &g= t; Dave T=C3=A4ht
> > CTO, TekLibre, LLC
> > http://w= ww.teklibre.com
> > Tel: 1-831-205-9740
>
> >
> --
>
> Dave T=C3=A4ht
> CTO, Te= kLibre, LLC
> http://www.teklibre.com
> Tel: 1-831-205-9740=
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