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From: Simon Barber <simon@superduper.net>
To: "Кирилл Луконин" <klukonin@gmail.com>,
	"Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>, <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat]   benefits of ack filtering
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:42:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16046ab61c8.2786.e972a4f4d859b00521b2b659602cb2f9@superduper.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALYz8yq_s7rxxem_0s_DyErzssOirm4mT-6UqyJpJ8+Zr1pDRQ@mail.gmail.com>

TLS works over TCP, so the TCP headers are not encrypted.

Simon

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On December 11, 2017 8:17:47 AM Кирилл Луконин <klukonin@gmail.com> wrote:

> As I noticed from the Meraki document:
>
> "FastACK also relies on packet inspection, and will not work when
> payload is encrypted. However, in our networks, we do not currently
> see an extensive use of encryption techniques like IPSec."
>
> But what about TLS ?
> As for me, this technology will never work in most cases.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Lukonin Kirill.
>
> 2017-12-01 17:53 GMT+05:00 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk>:
>> Jan Ceuleers <jan.ceuleers@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 01/12/17 01:28, David Lang wrote:
>>>> Stop thinking in terms of single-flow benchmarks and near idle
>>>> 'upstream' paths.
>>>
>>> Nobody has said it so I will: on wifi-connected endpoints the upstream
>>> acks also compete for airtime with the downstream flow.
>>
>> There's a related discussion going on over on the make-wifi-fast list
>> related to the FastACK scheme proposed by Meraki at this year's IMC:
>>
>> https://conferences.sigcomm.org/imc/2017/papers/imc17-final203.pdf
>>
>> It basically turns link-layer ACKs into upstream TCP ACKs (and handles
>> some of the corner cases resulting from this) and also seems to contain
>> an ACK compression component.
>>
>> -Toke
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>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Lukonin Kirill
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2017-12-01 12:53                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-12-01 13:13                           ` Кирилл Луконин
2017-12-01 13:22                             ` Luca Muscariello
2017-12-11 17:42                             ` Simon Barber [this message]
2017-12-01 13:17                           ` Luca Muscariello
2017-12-01 13:40                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-12-01 17:42                               ` Dave Taht
2017-12-01 20:39                                 ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2017-12-03  5:20                                   ` Bob McMahon
2017-12-03 10:35                                     ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2017-12-03 19:04                                       ` Bob McMahon
2017-12-01 21:17                                 ` Bob McMahon

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